Scott Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Self-inflicted wound caused by poor choices. Enjoy the time off. Now if he only had that medal he could ebay it for some cash. Unlike this guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 He never whined & never bitched & complained about being down there Shots fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Did he get jumped/mugged? Home invasion? Get caught with drugs/alcohol? Sexual assault? It sounds like there is some social issue that happened, in which he won't/can't comment. Just seems weird that he went AWOL, and is suspended.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Did he get jumped/mugged? Home invasion? Get caught with drugs/alcohol? Sexual assault? It sounds like there is some social issue that happened, in which he won't/can't comment. Just seems weird that he went AWOL, and is suspended.. Sounds like a classic case of running out of talent compounded by insurmountable lack of maturity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Even Brendan Smith snapped in hartford and didn’t finish the season with the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Sounds like a classic case of running out of talent compounded by insurmountable lack of maturity. I'm really not a fan of this kid. I hated the pick and how people stuck up for it, even exaggerating his talent level. I hated his attitude from the get go.. But this is weird. I hope it's a maturity thing and not something the kid is actually damaged from mentally from fear or if he himself is the one who did wrong onto someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Even Brendan Smith snapped in hartford and didn’t finish the season with the team Broke his hand fighting his own team mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesy Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I don't buy mental health at all for one reason. He asked for a trade. If he had a mental health issue, he would have either A) talked to management about it and asked for a leave of absence to figure himself out, or B) in the event he, for whatever reason, chose not talk to management and just leave to go back home because he's suicidal depressed, the next action isn't to request a trade. That's a ridiculous line of thought, and it really becomes less about mental health and more about being a spoiled baby used to getting his way (probably). By the way, "untenable situation for me as a person" reads to me like "I grew up rich and I'm above being in Hartford because it's out of my class". Like Rosenvold and I said yesterday, you can't take the phrase "mental health" and equate it to the US English meaning of the word. "Mental helse" is used for everything from a minor depression to serious mental health issues. It's a thing over here the last couple of years to be worried about the "mental health" of the younger generation. It's mostly stuff that my generation would be told in no uncertain terms to suck it up and get on with it. Things like being worried about grades in school, the older generation having to high expectations, not being popular enough, not getting the same brand jeans as your friends etc. I'm not going to discount it, but I sincerely doubt the kid has serious mental issues. I think this is more about not fitting in, not liking it in the Rangers organization and basically giving up. I'm not going to hold it against him, but he probably isn't cut out to be a professional hockey player in the NHL. That's not his fault, but like Pete says it doesn't exactly make the pick look any better given the intangibles were such a big part of the rationale. Lots of assumptions there, but it's my take based on the discourse over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 The only mental issue he has is an inflated view of self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I'm done with this kid. I was supportive at first and hoped for the best but it's shit pick gone BUST! Chalk it up to experience. Next time someone throws their medal in the stands, we skip them, Ok??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 The only mental issue he has is an inflated view of self. millennials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 He threw that medal away expecting his participation trophy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Even Brendan Smith snapped in hartford and didn?t finish the season with the team As if Brendan Smith is some kind of model NHL citizen. Maybe the Rangers should have put Lias on defense instead of Hartford. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Lias Andersson breaks silence on trade request, hints at 'incidents' with NY Rangers https://www.lohud.com/story/sports/nhl/rangers/2020/01/08/lias-andersson-breaks-silence-hints-incidents-ny-rangers/2844537001/ “People can say it's an idiotic decision for my hockey career,” he told Rylander, who translated the interview to English. “But they don't know the whole truth.” In the interview with GP, Andersson indicated, “There have been many incidents that have disturbed me.” “I’ve known him since he was a kid, but never seen him so down and taken by the moment,” Rylander told the USA TODAY Network. “He was hesitating a long time when the bullying question was asked.” “But I'm not a spoiled (expletive) kid who complains about not being allowed to play hockey for the New York Rangers. That's not the thing. There are other factors.” Doesnt go into a lot of detail, and he still wont discuss some things publicly. Also talks about a foot injury that doesnt sound good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 He changed his number because opposing players made fun of him on the ice. It wouldn’t surprise me if he took ribbing from teammates as bullying. He’s clearly mentally weak. That’s fine, Not everyone can deal with that shit. But it’s not a good attribute for an nhl player. This is assuming there wasn’t an actual bullying situation in the locker room because Kravstov also has a quote about not getting the humor of the lockeroom. Mika seemed to take him under his wing id be surprised if he let someone actually bully lias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 He changed his number because opposing players made fun of him on the ice. It wouldn’t surprise me if he took ribbing from teammates as bullying. He’s clearly mentally weak. That’s fine, Not everyone can deal with that shit. But it’s not a good attribute for an nhl player. This is assuming there wasn’t an actual bullying situation in the locker room because Kravstov also has a quote about not getting the humor of the lockeroom. Mika seemed to take him under his wing id be surprised if he let someone actually bully lias. Pete's been telling me for years my approach, demeanor and tone wouldnt work in the NHL because shit like this would happen to kids these days. As far as the on-ice shit, I didnt hear about the number thing. That's soft. I talk more shit playing skeeball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 He should change his number to 5 for the round he should have been drafted in lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuddyInTheMiddle Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 “I know I'm a good enough hockey player to play over there,” Andersson told Rylander. “I think I proved that during the preseason. I thought I had clinched a spot (behind top-line center) Mika Zibanejad.” I am not a big proponent of trying to interpret what is going on inside someone's head; ie "he wanted a participation trophy because he threw his silver medal into the crowd". Having said that, the line above speaks volumes to me, if that is not simply just a poor translation. I seriously thought he was on the right track after a strong camp performance, but to say that he clinched the 2nd line center spot tells me that he drinks his own Kool-Aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I am not a big proponent of trying to interpret what is going on inside someone's head; ie "he wanted a participation trophy because he threw his silver medal into the crowd". Having said that, the line above speaks volumes to me, if that is not simply just a poor translation. I seriously thought he was on the right track after a strong camp performance, but to say that he clinched the 2nd line center spot tells me that he drinks his own Kool-Aid. Chytil was bad. Strome was horrendous during preseason and the first few weeks, Howden wasnt good. Not that Andersson was incredible, but he was top 3 Cs in preseason. this is all irrelevant at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 He should change his number to 5 for the round he should have been drafted in lol 7th overall should have been 7th round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Obviously this is totally reading between the lines but I wonder if this “bullying” is a case of Lias feeling a Howden vs Lias situation. Maybe the team and ribbing is handled better by Howden and Lias is more sensitive and taking ribbing the wrong way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuddyInTheMiddle Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Chytil was bad. Strome was horrendous during preseason and the first few weeks, Howden wasnt good. Not that Andersson was incredible, but he was top 3 Cs in preseason. this is all irrelevant at this point. If someone wants to say that he was the least worst center not named Mika Zibanejad during the preseason, and therefore the #2; however it needs to be rationalized. A much more accurate way to say what you communicated would be that he earned to the privledge to start the season as the #3 center for the first couple of games. However barring a bad translation, that was not what he said in the article. Agree that it is spilled milk at this point though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I tried finding the thread where the medal throw was discussed but couldn't locate it. Anyone with better BSBH skills than me find it? I like going back sometimes and looking at how bad we missed on our bold predictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Obviously this is totally reading between the lines but I wonder if this “bullying” is a case of Lias feeling a Howden vs Lias situation. Maybe the team and ribbing is handled better by Howden and Lias is more sensitive and taking ribbing the wrong way. I dont think so. Both guys were on record saying they were very close when they played on the same team. Howden said something about spending all their time together, and it was hard adjusting after Andersson was sent down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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