Keirik

That, better be a 5 boarding

What's he wearing?

How has Schneider looked?

It's all that ink. Dead giveaway

Hertl would break his knee 4 games into his Rangers rental.

Alright I'm done arguing for the night. What was the trivia question?

I mean I guess? If you close your eyes to statistics. Sure. He had 64 points playing on a stacked line for 78 ppg. Now he plays with garbage and gets 20 points in 27 games before tonight for .74 ppg. something tells me if he can do that on both a stacked line and an expansion team, he can still produce points on a third line role. We don’t need a third line at .70 ppg. But we could use one that changes from a current rate of like .24 to like .45 having a center that can actually play hockey helps that, especially if he’s proven to do it several times already. And yes we don’t have to agree. I just don’t get where your opinion is coming from. It seems to me you’re saying Gourde stats improve when he plays more. Think you can say that about Chytil? There is a large contingency here that believes Alf can perform if he’s given better linemates. Gourde is exactly that.

But the point is, he doesn’t need those guys to put up some points. He still does now, on a much much worse team with much worse depth. We arent looking at him for 2nd line minutes. However we can see that if necessary from injury to another C he can perform there. We also can see that his points aren’t pp inflated. He does his damage from even strength, which is perfect for a guy at 3c. We can’t just move goal posts this much. All I’m reading is “yeah well he put up points because of his linemates” then he follows it up with 48 points in 80 games playing 15:50 a game 30 points in 70 games playing 14:40 a game 36 points in 56 games averaging 17:04 a game Then drafted by Seattle and is 20 points in 29 games on a craptastic team with not exactly all star linemates. Great, he’s getting 18 minutes a night. So he gets Strome ice time now without playing with guys like Bread for 5.1m cap hit and puts up stats not inflated by the power play. Plus he’s won two cups. Now I’m not suggesting to dump Strome. He needs to come back. I just don’t think a winger is as much as we need as a two way center who’s game doesn’t seem to give a fuck or depend on where he slots in the lineup. What’s one of our biggest weaknesses? What we do at 5 v 5. Gourde. 337 career games, 88 career goals with 67 of them at even strength. 119 career assists with 94 at even strength. I’ts my opinion that a package that wows Seattle into some retention and bringing Gourde in for 3 years does a hell of a lot more for our success than two months of Giroux could ever do. Teams like Tampa win because they force the opposition not picking their poison. A top 6 that can perform with a bottom 6 that cannot lets them off easy. Gourde centering that third line would be huge. You know who else does his offense mostly at EV? LaFreniere. 20 career goals and 12 assists ALL at even strength. gourde is a perfect fit.

1. in 17/18 he had 60+ points playing 16 minutes per night. His stats aren’t inflated this year. This is who he is. 2. you swap out Chytil for Gourde on our 3rd line and I guarantee you their playing times goes up a bit especially considering Gourde does most of his damage at even strength. 3. Blackwell has been back since mid November. Gourde does not play with McCann, Eberle, or Schwartz. That’s Seattles first line. Gourde has been with Tanev/Blackwell and Jarnkrok all season. Any other combo is like 2% of the line combos.

He has 20 points in 29 games primarily playing on a line with Blackwell and Jarnkrok though. Neither of those two guys are remotely big. It was Tanev for a while who was having a good year with Gourde but he’s not exactly huge either. Only 3 of those 20 points are on the pp. He’s doing just fine without Tampa.

But he is so entertaining to watch for the rest of us

But I never said “just get him” without giving the parts I’d think that make it necessary and players Seattle would possibly be interested in or my reasons why he might be willing to waive it today rather than waiting for the full ntc to go limited. none of us are in his inner circle to know whether NYC is one of the places he listed as the teams he would be traded to starting next year. Let’s not forget, it’s not as if Gourde signed this contract with the Kraken in the first place.

Why do you keep saying he’s 5’9 though? So what? The NHL is different now. Giroux is under 6 ft too. So is Pavelski. It’s crazy to me that we would be okay to trade 2-3 major pieces away for a guy that will only be here for 2 months at most. We are not one player away regardless. I’m suggesting a trade for a piece that would be here for 3 more seasons and is cost effective. He also does the majority of his scoring at even strength. He checks several boxes for us. That’s huge in todays NHL. We have zero idea when the cap realistically is going up with any significance.

I never said everyone wants to play in NY. I’m not even sure what made you say that out of nowhere. Obviously if he didn’t want to come here the point is moot but none of us know what teams he would allow a trade to. If he had a full ntc for years I wouldn’t even be bringing him up. His ntc goes to a limited one after this season and he’s currently on one of the worst teams in the league while he’s 30. It’s not that much of a stretch to think maybe he doesn’t want to spend the last few productive years of his game on a team starting from scratch.

Didn’t they just spend millions renovating msg? Duh, they are just going to pick it up and move it there!

Sure, sounds fine by me

Giroux is a full on rental. Gourde has term left that is reasonable. The package I’m suggesting may seem steep, but it’s to get a 3c at half retention or so. That’s going to need some serious pieces on our end. A couple of things. We have to stop thinking Chytil by himself is a piece. He’s not. His larger body of work stinks. He’s a reclamation project for a GM. The other thing is I personally highly doubt Drury would be willing to trade serious pieces within our division just for tb3 simple fact that it’s suicide if they blossom into what we expected them to be when we drafted them.

Yeah, that was my thinking too. And Seattle clearly went through the draft. Ole ting assets to possibly trade. I have a hard time thinking they said “let’s make a 30 year old Gourde the cornerstone of our franchise.”

Trivia is Kelly Kisio and Ulf Dahlin

He does have a full ntc but we have seen players move with that. It just 100% is up to the player. I don’t think it’s like the Trouba situation. Gourde never told the lightning he wants to leave and only wants to go to team X.

I mean sure, if 2-3 ex lightning players gets us a cup I’ll sign up for that.

Yanni Gourde. Yes yes I’m told they wouldn’t part with him and eat salary, but Seattle is trash. Less points than the Sabres and they clearly drafted guys for deadline sales. ask them to retain 50% and send Chytil, Lundkvist, Kravtsov. I don’t care how h fly that is. It gives 3 more years of an experienced cup winning Franco Canadian center to help Alf, provide experience, and be a real C for the third line that we need. None of those three traded involved for us will ever be anything on this team. Solidifying the third line to be productive and have that C for it until 2025 or so is perfect.

Both days most likely are fine for me but the 27th is my day of birth lol if the 24th gets jimmy involved then I’m all for it. RJ is going to have to suck it up and come out. I’ll work on siddeous and guilt him as much as possible.