Keirik

Offering someone a bridge deal of 7m is far from a low ball or nickel and dime offer. so who are you dumping then? Kakko or Alf? PayFox 10m now and have the following guaranteed money on the books u til 24/25 10m fox 11.6 bread 6.5 kreider 8.5 ziby 8m trouba 5.6 shesty 50 m for 6 players and realistically there would be 30-40m cap space if the cap rises 10m over 3 years and that’s not including Kakko who will have already re-upped. If he happens to have a lights out year this year then what do you do with him? Is he okay to bridge? What is ALF starts realizing his potential? Is he okay to bridge? you can cherry pick any superstar you want but winning teams usually have a culture. Ziby just took a hometown discount. Bridging Fox handsomely isn’t an insult. Teams do it. Pasta was bridged. He’s still making Dunkin’ commercials. Geuntzel was bridged. Pointe was bridged. I love Fox. We all do. That doesn’t mean we should forget there is a salary cap.

31-1 Rangers ?

I’m not sure how and where you are getting any connection to Kravtsov and Fox. Huge reach lol. I’m also not following a connection to playoff wins between anyone and Fox? I literally said handsomely bridge him. Not low ball or offer anything of that sort. your post makes no sense and seems to only serve to be argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. Cool, you think they should pay him market with the idea that market now might be lower than market later . That’s one strategy. I’m just in the boat that handing out 8 year deals to max money with the idea that it might save 1-2 million 4 years from now is a gamble on a team that has two other very high ceiling players on it in Kakko and Alf, 11.6 m until 2026 in Panarin, 8.5m until 2030 , Trouba (who by the way signed a market value 8m contract that we can’t wait to get rid of), and Kreider. Id rather see if the possibility of handsomely bridging to try and set it up to when Krieder and Trouba will be gone so we can see by that point exactly where we are in terms of Kakko, Alf, Fox, Shesterkin, etc.

I still don’t see why we need to bend over backwards again for a player that wanted to be here in the first place just because he’s extremely good. So what? Bridge him until the cap rises and it’s necessary. I don’t care what idiotic gm gave out dumb contracts previously. D is important. However, and big however. Winning teams in todays nhl aren’t around a D player being your best player. He cannot contractually surpass our best offensive players. It just rarely works that way. I don’t want to lose a Kakko or an Alf because we had to rush and pay Fox who is a pass first guy the tippy top salary to save 1 or 2 million when the cap rises. Be a smart gm here. How many cups does Crosby have? D wasn’t why he had 3 to be honest. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves es here boys.

It is wild to think our top 10 pick actually goes down in the depth chart after trading Buchnevich lol

Yup. Baby move by Kravtsov but he’s 100% right lol

This is only happening because FIFA is asking for a billion dollars for naming rights.

I’m not sure that really matter. I’m not suggesting to lose him. I’m suggesting to bridge him handsomely because there are a good amount of guys on our roster that also are going to need bridge deals. If this means 4 years from now we have to pay a bit more then so be it. But if you pay him market price next year while when we actually have leverage we then only have around 9m in cap space for Kakko/Strome/Blais/backup goalie and Alf/Chytil the following year after. Almost have to pray that neither Kakko nor Alf blossom fully or else we are in the same boat with another gigantic contract on their hand. If you bridge him until 24/25 you are paying him a bit more but the hope is cap significantly higher, Trouba’s nmc is unlocked to allow him to be traded and you are one year off from the same with kreider. Much more manageable scenario especially since we will 100% know by then exactly who Kakko and Alf have turned into being as well.

Henrik is a natural but I hope he doesn’t blow it and stick there. He’s a natural to go further and further if he wants

Why do it so quick? We have control. He wants to be here. Only here. I’m not in the camp of paying guys with 3-4 years nhl experience a boat load of money because it might have us 2m 4 years down the road. Cap is flat right now and we have some serious contracts under our belt for a good chunk of future. Good teams sign for market in a panic. Great teams establish a culture and go from there. Offer 7 x 4 years with the idea that he can be part of something bigger than just a salary. Isles and Bruins are establishing that. Work on their model, not on anyone else’s.

And I can't say the exact same thing the other way? Hell we can always interchange that exact thought. And you can say he quit Twice and guys like me can say how does this happen twice to two different prospects in such a short time frame? It's all in good discussion. I've repeatedly said I think there is blame all around for this one, but in the end when I see this happen multiple times i see it as a bigger problem rather than just pointing fingers at teenagers and young adults. I get it. It's not a popular opinion and I get how these kids ultimately are babies but I expect more out of our organization in handling these situations. We have a coach saying two different things. We have an organization leaking info. We have zero quotes from Kravtsov himself as far as I know. We have a former prospect saying he was bullied too. Something is very amiss to me.

It’s funny because we all are arguing with each other when it seems that if you connect all the dots on every side, we all probably are partly right in some way. In the end I’m just more worried how this is now a second top pick wasted, a shithead of a person offered a contract and cut weeks into the season thinking that just putting on a sweater was magically going to make him a good person, a beloved figure in JD being shown the door in the way he did, and a current coach that one day says basically “ not my call” about Kravtsov and the next day changing his story. something seems a miss here.

It’s not that hard to come to a conclusion. The NYR leaked what they felt is their side of things in a not so private, “hey we want this to get out, oh no how did this get out” kind of way to make the organization look like this was out of their control. The only thing missing is the Gorton style press conference saying how this was forced due to a self initiated ultimatum. But hey, I guess Drury learned this somewhere and figured this was better than a press conference.

Why not? We crossed over to where we started taking articles from the NY Post as pure factual.

Lol exactly. I assumed this as well lol congrats! @Patrick Bateman

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Hope Tarasenko likes warm weather and tax free

Fuck cancer.

The longer this goes on the more to me it seems like our illustrious GM has had and continues to have Kravtsov in his crosshairs. Partly justified and partly unjustified. It also doesn’t really sound like this was left up to Gallant to decide in the first place and that scares the crap out of me especially after a summer of us trading talent (cap reasons sure) then obtaining lunch pail players in spades.

Done . Sorry about that

Wow look at me getting called out lol. I’m special !

No. We got more mckegg. That’s why. ?

I have to agree. He had an extra step in his jump. I really hope they try splitting him and Trouba up or tell Jacob that he’s the stay at home guy so stay at home. You can decide if I mean on the ice or in Michigan.

I’ll check in Miller place and or wading river since they are closest. Why do you recommend there? I’m not in a rush but I have a good extra half an acre of property that I want to try and make useable so yeah.

According to bill pitdo in the fastest 150 seconds in the national hockey league yes