Keirik

Alfie!

I got 21 on next gen. Meh. Was expecting a bigger leap even if it’s already fantastic looking

You know what, think your right. Did they announce the answers?

I also wanted to buy Tim horton beans for tomorrow so lol

Oh duh Keenan too

Oh geez. Shero and AV for sure

Yes please

Had to go buy my ungrateful wife ice cream and miss half the game. Fun

Back in front...was it offside tho Guess not lol

Great job boys !

No one wins womp womp

Boom!

Doesnt look like

Fine. I’ll go with Miller.

Does it have to be our team?

I’d give up on him too. I’d give up on Buch though too so I’d give both Ottawa and Calgary the choice. I still think they’d decline anyway but I suppose it’s worth the chance.

I say this, I’d be shocked if either Tkachuk were obtainable for anything less than STARTiNG with ALF. Despite his poor season I think he still has exponential value. Chytil no. Buch maybe, but why would either team trade a unicorn to obtain him when he’s easier to find? But I guess you could offer sheet Brady? First thing is first. The team needs to stop pretending they aren’t hoping Chytil becomes Strome. They also have to decide now if they proceed ahead with 1c and 2c being Ziby and Strome for more than next year. Personally I give up on Chytil. Not because I think he won’t one day be someone but because you have to stop trying to hoard unrealized talent. Address faceoffs. Have a 4th liner that’ll win a draw. I say Glendening. He’s great on faceoffs and is a place killer and happens to be a free agent this summer. That’s another problem. Our top 6 can’t be the top 6, the top pp, and the top pk. They can’t be everything. The bottom 6 have to have a role outside of just being a shift to get the top 6 rest. That’s all I got for now lol

Was it really a lot for Grabner though? He was pacing 30 goals. It was a good return but it’s not like he fleeced NJ. I always like debating with you so you know that lol. I agree there is no way we can know either way if that letter did anything.

That's just one part of my chief complaint. I'm okay with him as GM but i do think there are some bonehead moves he's made. Shattenkirk didn't work out too well. Buying out Henrik in favor of Georgiev didn't work out too well. Bringing back ADA to an extension then giving him an ultimatum that he felt he had no choice but to stick to knowing damn well there was going to be another issue with ADA didn't work out too well, overpaying for Trouba when he only wanted to play here hasn't been exactly perfect just due to the money, committing to Kreider when everyone in the world knew for quite a while he's a one dimensional streaky player that hurts you more than helps when he's off, JJ was a silly pickup, not really addressing faceoffs at all or bringing in real actual grit, currently 12+m in buyouts right now, etc. I'm not even sure how we are trying to say Rykov and Jonny Tychonick are trade wins? It's a nothing trade. I think you're too focused on the letter part. I think it was idiotic. I don't think it helps anything. Regardless, there has been plenty wrong with Gorton's tenure. Plenty right too which is why earlier I said he's a tough one to judge. I don't want him fired per say by any means, but i don't think he's pissing rainbows either.

Drew, i think we both know the difference between a periodical and literally putting out an entire letter straight from the GM and President of the club to the public less than 3 weeks before the trade deadline. I think the Blackhawks did it recently in the OFFSEASON but that's about it. And two weeks after that letter we got hosed in the Tampa trade, part of the trade not even making sense since we traded our 28 year old captain and a 24 year old JT Miller in a rebuild. McD I sort of understand since i think he was up for a contract and they wrongly thought he was seconds from breaking down but Miller made no sense. Hell, we did better in the Nash trade and he was a shell of himself at the time. But that's hindsight. There really is no way to know if it helped/hurted/had no effect but that trade was horrible. We had targeted Sergachev in that trade and came away with wtf.

How many teams have you ever see do that especially before unloading pieces? It was a dumb thing to do. There is zero way of knowing it had no effect on his trade positions. Most GMs won't even tell the public is one player we all know is going to be traded is on the block let alone an entire team. I prefer the Lou Lamorello way of saying nothing and letting the results speak for your intentions.

Gorton is a tough one because he was handed a few key players like Panarin taking less to play here, Fox saying he only wanted to play here, and Trouba the same but then overpaid for him. He did an idiotic thing by taking out an add in the paper to say he’s selling players then got destroyed in a disastrous trade with Tampa but did some masterful jobs of acquiring Mika and Strome and unloading Nash and Skjei. Overall I’m not sure there is too much different I’d wish for, and I do think he has benefited from some fortunate circumstances outside of his control but still.

And guys like Chytil go back to your argument about a homogeneal nature. Great, he’s making some progress but he’s giving you exactly the same type of player and play as other lines. He does not give you one thing you don’t have. Can he win faceoffs? No. Can he shut down anyone in a third line role? No. Is he even a third line type player in ANY way? No. So if you keep him you are only doing so to replace Strome to hope he one day matches what Strome already does. Does that even make sense? I’m not sure that’s the best strategy to build a team. That part is on Gorton.

1. How long have you been infatuated with Lindsay? 2. It’s your wedding day and you lost a bet. You have to either wear MC Hammers pants or Vanilla Ice’s haircut? Which do you choose? 3. Would you rather have Tom Poti’s allergies or Derek Stepan’s hair? 4. Most under and overrated Ranger you can think of? 5. What would be your go to pregame meal if you were a superstitious pro athlete?

Where he’s struggled is getting consistent nhl results. Which is to be expected by an extremely mediocre coach. As for him not being “given” those things. I don’t know. I think you are romanticizing a lot. Panarin wasn’t made at all by Quinn. He brought his star with him. He’s just given free-er reign here because, well, he doesn’t listen to the coach. He had nearly 80 points under Torts. Let’s be realistic. Lindgren I think you are being extremely liberal with. Teams are not trying to game plan around staying away from Ryan Lindgren. That’s a huge stretch. Brendan Smith is a decent story but again, he’s exactly what he’s been his whole career. He’s not some revelation here. You have a case with Strome, Zibanejad, Buch, Blackwell. You can’t say that about Fox because there is no way to know what he does without Quinn. Is McDavid good because of his coach or is he good because he’s McDavid? ADA is.....come on. He’s not on the team and is getting bought out. Even if you want to say Quinn helped him have his best season he also helped him have his worst.