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Yeah and hopefully my wife starts doing shit arou d the house. We all have pipe dreams

Lol yeah. I think Detroit would be a fit but Staal would have to be seriously lobbying for him line Larry alluded to. I had said Detroit a while ago and everyone here shot me down understandably since Yz knows him very well.

Meanwhile Stevie is saying “Marc with all due respect, you might not be here by years end...”

I know he does but if they want to retain him they are going to look into doing it before the end of next season. No way they want a part of him getting to July 1st or whenever free agency opens up next off season

It's a shame too, if he were even what he was most of his career I'd be comfortable keeping him considering he probably signs for a bit less with covid cap around and takes the security. He's just been so awful though that if he ends up with a 10 goal 20 assist season it would be considered a step up from what he's doing now and then we start getting into the guessing game of which is the real Ziby.

Screw that, I hope it works for us more but that's wishful thinking st this point lol

I understand that and I do agree defensively, Ada was just shit, even moreso this year in his small sample size. He wasn’t very good last year but this year he took a real bad turn. I guess we will never know if that was a funk or the newer lowest denomination. He wasn’t that bad last year. Staal helped but with all the 3rd pairing rotations, you wonder if one guy might have stuck with ADA and made for a decent pair.

Usually I just skip the posts I find annoying, a waste of time, or just something I don’t feel like discussing. You?

So they don’t also miss ADAs 7th best point per game in the entire league at .779 from the back end? They just solely miss Zibys production? I know Fox is good but his point per game is down from last year from .60 to .526 A lot of that is on Mika but to literally make it sound like this team doesn’t miss a beat offensively without ADAs offense just seems a bit strange. Ultimately it’s ADAs fault, but this team sure could use more offense, let alone another option on D.

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I’m mostly in agreement with you, especially with the examples of Buch. ADA. Well that ship has sailed regardless but I just think Quinn this year was a bad fit with Tony for a few reasons and that’s one of my biggest problems with the Gorton/ Quinn pairing. They just don’t seem to be on the same page. When you have a GM bring him back only to have a coach bench him periods into game 1, there is some head scratching and co fusion to me. But anyway, it’s not worth the discussion really because we are where we are and neither of us really cares for Quinn. We just have different paths to bring us there lol. Trouba is a difficult one to figure out. But 50 points at 24 in the peg is still 50 points. It was 5th on that team and lead all D there. Plus the eye test of how he’s just not the same looking guy all around to me. It’s definitely a lot more difficult though to know if it’s just that Trouba overachieved or Quinn hinders. Hell, it could be Trouba in NY and his gf, distractions, whatever. Big buff kind of made Trouba take a backseat too until his departure. However I’m not seeing anything with him that makes me say “ok, Jacob is really buying in. He’s co,imo into form.” As for what Quinn is good at, I agree. He’s good at consistency in what he asks for. He sucks at all you mentioned and also for how he treats who doesn’t deliver on that and ignores his message. I think he’s in way over his head. I don’t care how likable he is around the organization. Santa Claus is likeable. I don’t want him coaching my team. I think he’s gotten the bare bones minimum out of the roster result wise for far too many large stretches of the season and that 6 week or so period we had from mid January 20- covid strike in March masked an otherwise shitty coaching job. The weird thing is, his message is north south, strong D, contain, lock things down. Whatever you want to call it. However, that glorious stretch we had last year where from around Jan 7th u til covid hit, we have a lot of games where we score let up 3 goals but score 4+ goals. That’s not a tight defensive style grind things out type game or team. Those are run and gun open hockey games and we thrive with that. I wonder how we would do if we were allowed to be that team again and embrace the actual type of players we have even without kicking the 4th or 5th leading offensive defenseman off the team.

All fair points, but in just saying I think there is a bit of truth in both sides. At least the part about guys regressing or progressing. It's hard to say Trouba's prior success is an outlier and Quinn is absolved but then say Quinn has a part in why ADA flourished last season. It's kind of playing both sides to a degree. When a player succeeds it's a sign of Quinn helping and if they regressed, it's on player or previous success being an outlier. I think no conclusions can be made on Miller or Hajek for quite a while. Way too early in. I don't t think Lindgren has shone any improvement really in his offensive game but he's not an offensive defenseman. I didn't see any progression with Skjei when he was under Quinn. I still think ADA is part on Quinn. I think the point is further cemented if you thrn do take into how little most forwards have been progressing outside of u guess a guy like Strome and Panarin with Ziby I guess being there too? Anyway, let's go Rangers lol

It’s quite possible that the both of you are right though. Just taking the D itself and forgetting the forward crop and a point can be made either way in my opinion. Fox has developed under Quinn. No brainer. He’s on pace for about another 45 point season. Miller has but it’s been way too early to call a success and he’s also sort of regressed a bit in recent games as bigger minutes have been given. He’s young though. Now Trouba. Has he regressed as a player or developed since he got here from Winnipeg? I’d say regressed even if we are talking purely offensively. Obviously part of that is from lesser pp minutes but he does not look like even the same person mobility wise in his breakout. He honestly looks like a 32 or 33 year old Girardi rather than a guy that just turned 27 in his prime. If this is his prime then holy shit. I know it’s more on Gorton for the trade but Quinn hasn’t exactly gotten the best out of him. 3 points in 14 games. Three ! My god. That’ll bring us lastly to our favorite non Ranger member of the club in ADA. The easy thing to say is he flourished because well, last year. Wouldn’t be a bad point either. And yes he does have attitude problems and is temperamental. He still was and is their best offensive defenseman though and went into this year, settled out of arbitration, during the few days of camp publicly said he wanted to play either side L or R to just do whatever is best for the team, then got thrown under the bus for an entire dogshit team performance on opening night. ADA then went straight downhill. I don’t see many other players held accountable for stupid penalties. He then got further sat, and was removed day 1 of his return from pp1 where likely it’s the only place he truly is worth his money all while literally being paired with, statistically, one of the worst defensemen in the entire league. That’s not putting someone in a position to succeed either so for whatever thriving ADA did under Quinn was ripped apart right then and there. If you have a pp specialist then by god use him that way. I know Fox is good and is a much better well rounded player but he’s not Superman either. Can’t run him into the ground. Point is, you can make an easy case in my mind ADA hardcore regressed as well. I think that’s on both player and coach. Not excusing ADA at all, but I think it’s more than just Tony being Tony.

Let’s hope for a sweep honestly. Not sure there is much else the kid could do there. Then again, I’m not sure I want Quinn getting to the kid.

I will say this, Kakko does look better this year but he doesn’t exactly look like a special talent or anything either. He has 3 points and hasn’t scored a goal since Jan 22nd. That’s a 10 game goallless drought. I am not suggesting for one second I think him or ALF have to leave the NHL but if this seasons is lost....well again, it’s time to start suggesting this coach is the actual square peg, not every other under developing player. But anyway, I’m more baffled by how a guy like Howden remains in the lineup every game. He hasn’t done a thing this year. I’d start there well before ALF or Kakko. He will be 23 I think in March and is in his third nhl season. I’m not sure if he’s really ever going to be more than a plugger but I know he’s not developing right now at all. I think it’s time to get looks to others.

No one should expect the Rangers to win every game. We just aren't there yet. The lack of passion or effort is the concerning part. I know they actually care but they odnt match or exceed the opposition's passion sometimes, make any adjustments that actually show results. A lot of reasons for that but it's something that needs to change when it happens as often as it does with us.

Hi Mika. How are you doing lately?

Like 2 out of 70 it feels like. I'm sure it's not but still

So you're saying there's a chance.....

Well if it isn't our old friend Mr McKegg

I’m not seeing it with him yet, but you rarely see any very young guys do anything under Quinn so it’s hard to tell if it’s the player or how he’s being asked to play.

Great game boys. Way to come out inspired lol

Once JJ fumbles it, Libor has to track back. Can’t stand up at the blue line there

Nick Ritchie fell on his head, got him a bit bloodied, stayed in the game, let up a goal, and taken to concussion protocol.

Looks like we are having our typical noon game