Phil Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 I did too, until last episode. At the end of the day, he's in prison right now for firing shots at cops. Not a light sentence if and when he's convicted. I don't remember if they covered it specifically, as to how long he'd be in, but you'd imagine a career criminal will end up with a multi-year sentence. He's in county right now, which would mean once sentenced he'd be moved to an actual prison, but he'd be housed in County indefinitely until that point. Factor in the bomb Abel finally dropped on Jax and the fact this will all unravel that the war with the Chinese was over nothing... unless Juice manages to get to Lin ASAP, the trickle-down effect will reach the county jail, and his "mission" is now defunct. What use is a rat-traitor without a task to get back into the clubs' good graces? Unless he manages to get to Lin as soon as possible, he's going to be living out the rest of his time in county (at least) as Tully's prison bitch. And even if he does kill Lin, what does that actually solve now that Jax knows this has all been orchestrated by the actions of his own mother, and that the Chinese actually had nothing to do with it? It's exactly that reason I think he's going to just kill himself, rather than hold out hope that there's any way out for him, or more specifically, any way back into the Club. Who the fuck wants to live out their days being repeatedly raped in prison? I'd find a way to rip my own throat out too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjweimar Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Did you not watch the sneak peak after the afterword? They say Lin was killed in prison and Jax snaps...it is great and I can't wait to watch these last couple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 Did you not watch the sneak peak after the afterword? They say Lin was killed in prison and Jax snaps...it is great and I can't wait to watch these last couple What preview was this? The one that aired after the episode said nothing about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVYpE6rxi7o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ERIK- Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I did too, until last episode. At the end of the day, he's in prison right now for firing shots at cops. Not a light sentence if and when he's convicted. I don't remember if they covered it specifically, as to how long he'd be in, but you'd imagine a career criminal will end up with a multi-year sentence. He's in county right now, which would mean once sentenced he'd be moved to an actual prison, but he'd be housed in County indefinitely until that point. Factor in the bomb Abel finally dropped on Jax and the fact this will all unravel that the war with the Chinese was over nothing... unless Juice manages to get to Lin ASAP, the trickle-down effect will reach the county jail, and his "mission" is now defunct. What use is a rat-traitor without a task to get back into the clubs' good graces? Unless he manages to get to Lin as soon as possible, he's going to be living out the rest of his time in county (at least) as Tully's prison bitch. And even if he does kill Lin, what does that actually solve now that Jax knows this has all been orchestrated by the actions of his own mother, and that the Chinese actually had nothing to do with it? It's exactly that reason I think he's going to just kill himself, rather than hold out hope that there's any way out for him, or more specifically, any way back into the Club. Who the fuck wants to live out their days being repeatedly raped in prison? I'd find a way to rip my own throat out too. All good points ,I mean juice doesn't have much to live for if that all goes down.Even though he was a rat you kind of feel for the guy,I do at least . In afterword preview they showed jax punching Unser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 Ah, I didn't watch Afterword. Now I'm really curious about exactly what Unser said/says, and whether or not it's true, or he's just trying to get Jax's goat for some other reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ERIK- Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I recall after getting slugged Unser told the sheriff to put out an apb on Jax so he doesn't kill anyone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Scags Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Let me just start out by saying that the opening scene of yesterdays episode may be one of the most entertaining openings I've seen on regular TV! :thumbs: This final season is just getting better and better by the moment with all the twists and turns. Heres a question I have. With almost all of Mark's crew effectively wiped out, does this mean he's out of the picture now? You never really get a sense of how big his organization is manpower wise, at least I haven't seen it or I missed an episode that showed it. I guess he could get help from other organization he's allied with, but directly he's been cut off for now. As far as Juice, I think any hopes that he or fans had of him coming back into the good graces of the club was always a mirage. Once you cross that line and become a rat its usually over, you're never going to be loved or trusted the same way again in that fraternity. And I don't think he ever gets to Lin, that would be too easy and clean and nothing seems to be easy and clean in this final season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Scags Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Oh and BTW, I didn't see the ending of yesterdays show (got tired) and I'm seeing/hearing some earth shattering stuff!! Can't wait to get home now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluephoria Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Ho-lee-shite! FINALLY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Scags Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Just watched the ending! :popcorn: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjweimar Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Ah, I didn't watch Afterword. Now I'm really curious about exactly what Unser said/says, and whether or not it's true, or he's just trying to get Jax's goat for some other reason. Yeah you have to try to watch the Afterword and see the sneak peak they gave...intense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 Watching it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Scags Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Yeah you have to try to watch the Afterword and see the sneak peak they gave...intense My fucking DVR cut the preview at the end off! :banghead: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 Right here, Scags: http://www.fxnetworks.com/video/356757571967 Skip to the end. I need to re-think my theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Scags Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 Actually, I still think Juice is going to kill himself. Regardless of what happens here. It's clear a path is being carved out where Jax will find out the truth behind Gemma and Tara, and invalidate this entire war he's waged with the Chinese. Lin being dead changes nothing in the way of Juice's own betrayal, and there's just no path for him to return to the club IMO. He's never going to have their trust again. I still think he dies in prison, one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Scags Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Yea there was no way I ever saw him coming back. A rat can never be trusted and loved the same way again in that fraternity. He probably offs himself, and for his sake I hope its sooner than later. While it may leave some people a little uncomfortable, I thought that the scene with Tigg and Venus was maybe one of the best dialogue scenes the show has had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ERIK- Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Besides all of us wondering what becomes of juice and Gemma ,I Wonder if the homeless lady will show up sometime this season http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/544974/20140326/sons-anarchy-soa-samcro-jax-teller-kurt.htm#.VGaFnT29KSM Gotta love Facebook,see a lot of crazy theories where people are saying that is jax's real mom and JT isn't really dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Scags Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/803612/man-crying-o.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 Seriously, that entire episode. What a heart-breaking... everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Scags Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Yea. Only other time I got watery eyed with this show was after Opie died. This was as heart wrenching if not more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 The funeral, and Opie's death itself are two scenes I just don't want to watch again. I welled up good when Nero completely broke down with Gemma, too. His character, you can tell, is almost broken in half. Whatever is left of him is now out to save Jax. Whatever is left of him, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Scags Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 After show talking about it just before; that was fucking genius by Sutter when they cut out Jax's voice while he's telling Nero over the phone about Gemma. Such a moving scene. The whole fucking episode, wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 So, anyone wanna tell me I'm wrong about Juice dying now? Because I'm pretty sure there's no way out of this for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Scags Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 lol and yet amazingly he keeps ticking. Even tonight it looks like the guards beat him badly but it appears he will still be alive for at least the second to last episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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