torontonyr Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 The majority of fans on Twitter, or the majority of fans in general? Probably both tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 NYC is deep blue, but Rangers fans at the Garden, half of whom are not from NYC and who bear no relationship to NYC's overall demographics, are not deep blue. White males of above average income are not predominantly Trump haters. I'd say many or most Rangers fans have world views that are sympathetic to the NYPD, whose union has endorsed Trump. I seem to remember there was this Republican politician who was outspoken, contentious, a big time law and order guy, and big supporter of cops. He used to get cheered big time every time he showed up to watch the Rangers. Guilliani, I think, was his name. I think, when the puck drops, the jersey is what matters. His off ice attention prevents his on ice positive attention from continuing to grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Nah. The only one triggered is ADA lol. They both are. It's a viscous cycle of grievance and gotcha attempts. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 NHL Tonight showed some interesting stats on Strome: +23 5 on 5 when playing with Panarin and -1 when not playing with him. Similar differential in scoring chances. It will be interesting to see how an arbitrator factors that in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 NHL Tonight showed some interesting stats on Strome: +23 5 on 5 when playing with Panarin and -1 when not playing with him. Similar differential in scoring chances. It will be interesting to see how an arbitrator factors that in. Think I was +9 playing with Panarin too last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 you mean the guy that owned us in the play in round? playoffs this year, semi finals last year, Svechnikov, Aho, Teravainen, Hamilton, et al. I'm pretty confident they have a clue what they are doing lol How'd their goalies do their whole career and in the first round of the playoffs? Both of their goalies are long time BACK UP material. They really stepped in shit in attaining those players. Can't exactly give them credit for drafting the best available players due to them sucking for a few years. They haven't really gotten any diamonds in the rough, nor have they fleeced anyone in trades.. Kinda exactly like the Rangers. Why Gorton gets credit for Kakko, ALF, and Shestyorkin is strange. All he did was suck bad enough to get two top draft picks, and find a diamond in the rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I'd say Aho qualifies as a diamond in the rough, so does half their D core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 How'd their goalies do their whole career and in the first round of the playoffs? Both of their goalies are long time BACK UP material. They really stepped in shit in attaining those players. Can't exactly give them credit for drafting the best available players due to them sucking for a few years. They haven't really gotten any diamonds in the rough, nor have they fleeced anyone in trades.. Kinda exactly like the Rangers. Why Gorton gets credit for Kakko, ALF, and Shestyorkin is strange. All he did was suck bad enough to get two top draft picks, and find a diamond in the rough. Omg, what? Can't give Carolina credit because they haven't gotten any diamonds in the rough. Why does Gorton get credit for finding a diamond in the rough? Aho was a second round pick. They got Teravainen for a 2nd and 3rd round pick. Neither pick has played an NHL game while Teravainen has become a ppg player. Slavin is a 4th round pick. Pesce a 3rd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 How'd their goalies do their whole career and in the first round of the playoffs? Both of their goalies are long time BACK UP material. They really stepped in shit in attaining those players. Can't exactly give them credit for drafting the best available players due to them sucking for a few years. They haven't really gotten any diamonds in the rough, nor have they fleeced anyone in trades.. Kinda exactly like the Rangers. Why Gorton gets credit for Kakko, ALF, and Shestyorkin is strange. All he did was suck bad enough to get two top draft picks, and find a diamond in the rough. I’m not exactly sure what you are getting at here. Ok, so they don’t have the best goalies. No team has a perfect roster. Still got within a few wins of getting to the cup finals in 18/19 and have a pretty solid team. Aho was a late second round pick. What exactly is being a good organization if it isn’t hiring a good coach, drafting intelligently with your given opportunities, picking up a few acquisitions, and having playoff success? No o e is saying they are the pinnacle of hockey but ot say they haven’t a clue is just.......strange... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Omg, what? Can't give Carolina credit because they haven't gotten any diamonds in the rough. Why does Gorton get credit for finding a diamond in the rough? Aho was a second round pick. They got Teravainen for a 2nd and 3rd round pick. Neither pick has played an NHL game while Teravainen has become a ppg player. Slavin is a 4th round pick. Pesce a 3rd round pick. OK. So, Aho was drafted by the previous GM, Ter?v?inen was the price Chicago had to pay to for ditching that Bickell contract. Slavin was drafted in 2012 by another GM Pesce, 2013 and isn't very special. Teravainen was a nice get, but THIS GM didn't make that deal either.. Rutherford for much of this team and I'd say Ron Francis got them Teravainen, well because HE DID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Omg, what? Can't give Carolina credit because they haven't gotten any diamonds in the rough. Why does Gorton get credit for finding a diamond in the rough? Aho was a second round pick. They got Teravainen for a 2nd and 3rd round pick. Neither pick has played an NHL game while Teravainen has become a ppg player. Slavin is a 4th round pick. Pesce a 3rd round pick. OK. So, Aho was drafted by the previous GM, Ter?v?inen was the price Chicago had to pay to for ditching that Bickell contract. Slavin was drafted in 2012 by another GM Pesce, 2013 and isn't very special. Teravainen was a nice get, but THIS GM didn't make that deal either.. Rutherford for much of this team and I'd say Ron Francis got them Teravainen, well because HE DID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I’m not exactly sure what you are getting at here. Ok, so they don’t have the best goalies. No team has a perfect roster. Still got within a few wins of getting to the cup finals in 18/19 and have a pretty solid team. Aho was a late second round pick. What exactly is being a good organization if it isn’t hiring a good coach, drafting intelligently with your given opportunities, picking up a few acquisitions, and having playoff success? No o e is saying they are the pinnacle of hockey but ot say they haven’t a clue is just.......strange... Aho was an early 2nd. Waddell took over a team that was built for him and has subtracted piileces here and there while also making some questionable adds. Their obvious need is a decent goalie and he instead spent assets on questionable moves like Skjei and now Fast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 With Georgiev signed, does anyone know how much money the Ranger ACTUALLY have left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Aho was an early 2nd. Waddell took over a team that was built for him and has subtracted piileces here and there while also making some questionable adds. Their obvious need is a decent goalie and he instead spent assets on questionable moves like Skjei and now Fast... They got to the SEMI FINALS with guys in goal that aren’t superstars and Aho was still a second round pick that’s one of the best young players in the game. Literally pretty much every team in the NHL could have drafted him except us. He’s just on the cusp of superstar level but gets overlooked because it’s Carolina. There combined postseason goalies last year had a .931 save % and 2.18 GAA. They didn’t lose because of goaltending at all last year. You can make a case the year before when they got games away from the finals sure but not last year at all. Skjei was fine for them and Fast is a good veteran pickup. I’m not sure where you are going with this when they’ve had success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 They got to the SEMI FINALS with guys in goal that aren’t superstars and Aho was still a second round pick that’s one of the best young players in the game. Literally pretty much every team in the NHL could have drafted him except us. He’s just on the cusp of superstar level but gets overlooked because it’s Carolina. There combined postseason goalies last year had a .931 save % and 2.18 GAA. They didn’t lose because of goaltending at all last year. You can make a case the year before when they got games away from the finals sure but not last year at all. Skjei was fine for them and Fast is a good veteran pickup. I’m not sure where you are going with this when they’ve had success. I'm going with the Covid cup not being a good measuring stick. I'm not sold on Carolina being any kind of force in the east. Especially with their goaltending. They had a better chance in 18/19, with a pretty different looking roster. The fucking Islanders almost made it to the cup finals. Are we to be scared of them now too? I see Carolina taking a big step back this coming year as far as contending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 How much are we expecting Strome to be asking for? With guys like Dadonov signing for 3 years 15 mill, why is it expected that Strome is going to be getting over 5 per? Would everyone be down with 3 years at 13.5? If he doesn't continue his chemistry with Panarin, he'd be OK as a 3rd line forward at that price. No? I see no other choice but to bring this guy back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Strome for 4.5 seems like a good deal for a productive Center and a steal if he replicates last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I think if Strome was willing to sign for 4.5 he would be signed already. Have a feeling Strome, ADA and Lemieux all are going to arbitration and won?t sign before their dates. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I think if Strome was willing to sign for 4.5 he would be signed already. Have a feeling Strome, ADA and Lemieux all are going to arbitration and won?t sign before their dates. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by TapatalkNah, filing for arbitration is a formality just to make sure there's a deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I'm going with the Covid cup not being a good measuring stick. I'm not sold on Carolina being any kind of force in the east. Especially with their goaltending. They had a better chance in 18/19, with a pretty different looking roster. The fucking Islanders almost made it to the cup finals. Are we to be scared of them now too? I see Carolina taking a big step back this coming year as far as contending.I'm glad you've taken it upon yourself to decide how difficult the COVID playoffs were and how they should be used as a measuring stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I don't think Strome wants term without the bag. He either gets like...4x6, or 1x4.25 or so. Free agency will be attractive to him. He MAY want 2 years just to get out of the COVID market. Imo, this whole process is dictated by DeAngelo's decision anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I don't think Strome wants term without the bag. He either gets like...4x6, or 1x4.25 or so. Free agency will be attractive to him. He MAY want 2 years just to get out of the COVID market. Imo, this whole process is dictated by DeAngelo's decision anyway.Yeah, I'm not so sure about that. If you've heard any kind of interview with Strome since he came to the Rangers, he really likes Quinn and is happy to have found a home. He definitely doesn't sound like someone who's in it for the money. I think he wants to stop moving around and just play hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Do you guys think if Vlad Namestikov stayed with Rangers and got 19:00 toi playing with Bread he would have done worse or better then Strome? Same question with Brassard there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Do you guys think if Vlad Namestikov stayed with Rangers and got 19:00 toi playing with Bread he would have done worse or better then Strome? Same question with Brassard there.Names would never do enough to warrant 19 night with Panarin LOL. He sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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