siddious Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Lemieux was meh, this is an appropriate return for him. Though a 3rd would have been better. Figured this is some sort of move to get kravtsov into the lineup. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 That says more about Kakko than it does Lemieux. Depressing, but pretty true. Might say just as much about Quinn's work with young players as well, given Lafreniere also isn't doing any better either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickeyT Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 pretty dramatic way to announce Kravy in for tomorrow but ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Lemieux was meh, this is an appropriate return for him. Though a 3rd would have been better. Figured this is some sort of move to get kravtsov into the lineup. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk A first would have been better, but it seems like Lemuiex isn’t a real commodity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphinity 2.0 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Depressing, but pretty true. Might say just as much about Quinn's work with young players as well, given Lafreniere also isn't doing any better either. For sure. Different story for a different thread tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Odd trade lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_IV Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Rangers line-up lacks some serious toughness, though. This is my concern. We already lack toughness and they send off one of their toughest guys. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Awful. The only forward who plays a pesky role and will drop the gloves. Need these types for the playoffs. Seriously underutilized player. His offensive ability is very under rated. This guy WILL become better elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigueGabriel Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Admired his toughness, wanted him to improve and succeed. But he didn't. With DeAngelo and Lemieux gone, they better sign Smith to a team-friendly deal or Buch is going to be the one to take on Tom Wilson. That said, this why they drafted both Schneider and Cuylle. So their stock just rose. Sent from my SM-G970U using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickeyT Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 we’ve got some scrappy guys to get by in Lindgren, Truba, Smith, &even Strome. it’s unfortunate though that a lot of our big guys are so passive (Buch, Kreider, Gauthier, Miller..). but hey, we drafted Braden “The Jaw” Schneider for this very purpose so cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skunkman Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Meh! So the only Ranger that did not squat to pee and of course we trade him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skunkman Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 we’ve got some scrappy guys to get by in Lindgren, Truba, Smith, &even Strome. it’s unfortunate though that a lot of our big guys are so passive (Buch, Kreider, Gauthier, Miller..). but hey, we drafted Braden “The Jaw” Schneider for this very purpose so cheers. Where is Schneider playing now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Two years was plenty of time for him to pan out. In anticipation of the Expansion Draft, everyone is looking to move bodies for picks, making the picks your going to get for a given player probably not as high as in an ordinary year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickeyT Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Where is Schneider playing now? bet Hajek knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Let's be honest, he fucking sucked. He brought chippiness to the table for sure, but he got his ass beat in most fights and took dumb ass penalties. I won't be sad to see him gone. This sums it up perfectly. Won’t be said to see him go, he was just taking a roster space from someone, anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 At the end of the day, the Rangers managed to get, figure, the 100th overall pick and 1.5m in cap space in return for a guy they couldn't protect in the expansion draft, was a marginally net negative offensive player, a marginally net negative defensive player, and someone who really only offered "toughness". Lemieux's maybe got a little more pop in him than what we saw here, but it's not really enough to cover the shortcomings. He plays a dying breed of hockey - you can't be only tough or only a pest or only physical anymore. He's a good dude, and you want to root for him, but he's a replacement level player. Getting a 4th for a replacement level player is simply good asset management. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Had high hopes he could become Tom Wilson. Totally a pipe dream and I realize that but it sure would be nice if it panned out. Good luck Brendan; hope you can crack the lineup out there and have success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 At the end of the day, the Rangers managed to get, figure, the 100th overall pick and 1.5m in cap space in return for a guy they couldn't protect in the expansion draft, was a marginally net negative offensive player, a marginally net negative defensive player, and someone who really only offered "toughness". Lemieux's maybe got a little more pop in him than what we saw here, but it's not really enough to cover the shortcomings. He plays a dying breed of hockey - you can't be only tough or only a pest or only physical anymore. He's a good dude, and you want to root for him, but he's a replacement level player. Getting a 4th for a replacement level player is simply good asset management. Yup. It might even allow them to move up 8-10 spots in the 3rd round to get a player they are targetting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 At the end of the day, the Rangers managed to get, figure, the 100th overall pick and 1.5m in cap space in return for a guy they couldn't protect in the expansion draft, was a marginally net negative offensive player, a marginally net negative defensive player, and someone who really only offered "toughness". Lemieux's maybe got a little more pop in him than what we saw here, but it's not really enough to cover the shortcomings. He plays a dying breed of hockey - you can't be only tough or only a pest or only physical anymore. He's a good dude, and you want to root for him, but he's a replacement level player. Getting a 4th for a replacement level player is simply good asset management. I wouldn’t go as far as good roster management as I’d say indifferent roster management. He wasn’t really a problem and if it was to make roster space for Kravtsov so be it, but at least he somewhat had grit. My problem isn’t so much getting rid of him as it is that we have no other toughness really. You really can’t just have 4 lines of the same style and we still have a zero identity 4th line. We just became more vanilla and I wasn’t 3vrn sure that was actually possible. I’m also not so huge on specifically having your toughest guys be defensemen in terms of the possibility of fighting. If they do fight, it puts a strain on the rest of the D a lot more than if it’s a fwd but that may be nitpicking. Speaking of nitpicking. How sad is it that Lemieux had more points than Kakko? Jesus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 If they do fight, it puts a strain on the rest of the D a lot more than if it’s a fwd but that may be nitpicking. Good point. It will now fall on Smith, if he's in the lineup, and if he's not, who? I don't want to see someone like Kreider feeling like he has to fight because he's strong and supposed to be a leader. Tom Wilson may be eyeing the lineup to see who he wants to pick on. Not that he wouldn't be with Lemieux around, but at least having Lemieux around would make for a pretty painless sacrifice to the Wilson dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I can buy the good roster management angle. That's logical. There's obviously a bit of a crunch, even if the decisions are between a shit sandwich and a giant douche. My issue is with roster construction. These are two different things, and now we're even softer than yesterday, and yesterday we were really soft. I know it's hard to find grit that can play, but we're not even trying at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigueGabriel Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I can buy the good roster management angle. That's logical. There's obviously a bit of a crunch, even if the decisions are between a shit sandwich and a giant douche. My issue is with roster construction. These are two different things, and now we're even softer than yesterday, and yesterday we were really soft. I know it's hard to find grit that can play, but we're not even trying at this point.I think the brass would argue that they're trying to acquire toughness through the draft. Both Schneider and Cuylle are big boys with a somewhat felonious love for crushing people. Schneider seems a lock to make the NHL but Cuylle is a coin flip at this point. But they've also picked up boy giants Adam Edstrom and Matthew Rempe. Edstrom has been suspended once this year in the uber-polite SHL, but who knows if either one will ultimately distinguish themselves as anything more than a pituitary gland run amok. Maybe Gorton has a trade target that comes with that skill set. But I agree that this leaves leaves them largely vulnerable to intimidation. Sent from my SM-G970U using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I think the brass would argue that they're trying to acquire toughness through the draft. Both Schneider and Cuylle are big boys with a somewhat felonious love for crushing people. Schneider seems a lock to make the NHL but Cuylle is a coin flip at this point. But they've also picked up boy giants Adam Edstrom and Matthew Rempe. Edstrom has been suspended once this year in the uber-polite SHL, but who knows if either one will ultimately distinguish themselves as anything more than a pituitary gland run amok. Maybe Gorton has a trade target that comes with that skill set. But I agree that this leaves leaves them largely vulnerable to intimidation. Sent from my SM-G970U using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk They’re 18 with 0 nhl games. We need those guys 2 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigueGabriel Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 They’re 18 with 0 nhl games. We need those guys 2 years ago hoNot saying that is a sufficient argument, but one they might make. Sent from my SM-G970U using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Admired his toughness, wanted him to improve and succeed. But he didn't. With DeAngelo and Lemieux gone, they better sign Smith to a team-friendly deal or Buch is going to be the one to take on Tom Wilson. That said, this why they drafted both Schneider and Cuylle. So their stock just rose. Sent from my SM-G970U using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk They'll be okay, but I could see them signing and established fourth line presence this off-season to shore things up. Not sure who's available but someone in the Martin or Clifford mold. Big, tough, but can legitimately play and keep up. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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