Pete Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Dunny said: I haven't done a deep dive, but why does it seem that everybody the Ranger FO deems surplus seem to go elsewhere and thrive? Lemieux is just the latest. We used to be on the winning side of a lot of these dumpster dive reclamation gambits, now we're stuck with Kevin Rooney, Ryan Reaves, and Dryden Hunt. A lot if it is luck, I guess, but if we were able to cobble depth together like Sather-Renney-Tortorella had, paired with our top end guys, holy shit, we'd have a great team. The main thing that jumps out is his deployment 60% ozone starts, combined with a 106 PDO. It's 11 games in. It's likely he returns to his shitty JAG form. That said, I lose a little more faith in Drury daily. It's almost like he didn't take any of those other GM jobs because he knows he's an imposter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Dunny said: I haven't done a deep dive, but why does it seem that everybody the Ranger FO deems surplus seem to go elsewhere and thrive? Lemieux is just the latest. We used to be on the winning side of a lot of these dumpster dive reclamation gambits, now we're stuck with Kevin Rooney, Ryan Reaves, and Dryden Hunt. A lot if it is luck, I guess, but if we were able to cobble depth together like Sather-Renney-Tortorella had, paired with our top end guys, holy shit, we'd have a great team. I think it’s called patience which we dont have much anymore. Its the same we see with Chytil and other kids. Fans not giving them a chance to grow and find their game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, CCCP said: I think it’s called patience which we dont have much anymore. Its the same we see with Chytil and other kids. Fans not giving them a chance to grow and find their game. Chytil is in his 4th NHL season. Lemieux was here for parts of 3... What's the deadline for "patience"? A decade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 49 minutes ago, Pete said: Chytil is in his 4th NHL season. Lemieux was here for parts of 3... What's the deadline for "patience"? A decade? Idk. How long did it take JT Miller to break out? How long did it take Strome to move up from being a fouth liner/NHL bust? Your favorite players are perfect examples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, CCCP said: Idk. How long did it take JT Miller to break out? How long did it take Strome to move up from being a fouth liner/NHL bust? Your favorite players are perfect examples OK, so I'll ask again...How long should you hang onto a player who's doing absolutely nothing for you? Environment is a factor. There's a chance Strome would still be a 4th liner for Edmonton. Strome actually credited Quinn with his changing his mind set. He said he was putting so much pressure on himself to have an impact on the game and Quinn just reduced his goal to "have a good shift". There could be dozens of reasons players don't have success in one city, and do better in others. But something has to actually change. There's no evidence that if Lemiuex stayed here anything would have "clicked", but like I said...60% o zone starts high PDO point to his coach deploying him in safe spaces and him being lucky. Ryan Reaves getting 50% Ozone starts makes me feel like if Lemiuex were here, that's where he'd be...same as where he was under Quinn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 hour ago, CCCP said: Idk. How long did it take JT Miller to break out? How long did it take Strome to move up from being a fouth liner/NHL bust? Your favorite players are perfect examples Six years, or so, and two major trades, which he directly credited with getting him on the right track. A wake up call, basically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Isles gonna lose again. They are digging themselves a big hole to climb out of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 11 hours ago, Pete said: OK, so I'll ask again...How long should you hang onto a player who's doing absolutely nothing for you? Environment is a factor. There's a chance Strome would still be a 4th liner for Edmonton. Strome actually credited Quinn with his changing his mind set. He said he was putting so much pressure on himself to have an impact on the game and Quinn just reduced his goal to "have a good shift". There could be dozens of reasons players don't have success in one city, and do better in others. But something has to actually change. There's no evidence that if Lemiuex stayed here anything would have "clicked", but like I said...60% o zone starts high PDO point to his coach deploying him in safe spaces and him being lucky. Ryan Reaves getting 50% Ozone starts makes me feel like if Lemiuex were here, that's where he'd be...same as where he was under Quinn. 11 hours ago, Pete said: OK, so I'll ask again...How long should you hang onto a player who's doing absolutely nothing for you? Environment is a factor. There's a chance Strome would still be a 4th liner for Edmonton. Strome actually credited Quinn with his changing his mind set. He said he was putting so much pressure on himself to have an impact on the game and Quinn just reduced his goal to "have a good shift". There could be dozens of reasons players don't have success in one city, and do better in others. But something has to actually change. There's no evidence that if Lemiuex stayed here anything would have "clicked", but like I said...60% o zone starts high PDO point to his coach deploying him in safe spaces and him being lucky. Ryan Reaves getting 50% Ozone starts makes me feel like if Lemiuex were here, that's where he'd be...same as where he was under Quinn. Everyone is different. As long as it takes, i guess. Im not a fan of dumping your young players because they havent peaked yet. Otherwise whats the point of the rebuild? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 8 hours ago, Keirik said: Isles gonna lose again. They are digging themselves a big hole to climb out of They have 3 games in hand, but already 13 points behind. With the way the Metro is going it will not be easy for them. Imagine Rangers making the playoffs while the Islanders miss. That would be hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Keirik Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 49 minutes ago, Phil said: I was watching that live last night. I was thinking wtf. Very distracting lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Getting their new arena after 30 years of complaining wasn't enough to keep classy Islanders faithful happy for long. They booed them heavily at the end last night, never mind that it's a Islanders-Bridgeport split squad trying to play against perhaps the most talented team in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, josh said: ugh godspeed buch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Got a chance to watch a little bit of the Blues game last night. Buch didn't look like he was out of place at all! Good for him! I wish him the best!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 ranger at heart. Strome for Buch straight up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mess11 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Rumor: Isles pursue D man. Chychurn was named. So he could be available should the Isles pass for the Stars D that hits FA at season end. I forgot his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 24, 2021 Author Share Posted November 24, 2021 11 hours ago, Mess11 said: Rumor: Isles pursue D man. Chychurn was named. So he could be available should the Isles pass for the Stars D that hits FA at season end. I forgot his name. Klingberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 14 hours ago, Mess11 said: Rumor: Isles pursue D man. Chychurn was named. So he could be available should the Isles pass for the Stars D that hits FA at season end. I forgot his name. e5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mess11 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, CCCP said: e5? Baseball reference for my error? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, Mess11 said: Baseball reference for my error? I figured you more for a First baseman! LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mess11 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 McAvoy was boarded face first. May be out a game or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mess11 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Lil Strome is healthy scratch again. King seemed to want more ice time for him. Trade coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Islanders 1st period looks worse than the Rangers 1st period today. Pens controlling the play and Sorokin standing on his head so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 I honestly do not have a single fucking clue how Butch Goring has a job. He can’t do this, simple as that. He’s far too biased. It’s to the point Islander fans can’t even listen to it. It’s basically tarnishing his name there. It’s embarrassing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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