SaveByRichter35 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 17 hours ago, Phil said: This is a chicken/egg-type scenario. "They weren't given PP time." Correct. Because they are utterly ineffective at even strength. PP time isn't given to unproductive players, it's given to those who produce, because they're most likely to convert on special teams. Especially on a team gunning for the playoffs. Also: Its allllllll part of the plan. Don't let the kids play the PP. Stifle their production. Ensure they won't be worth much when their ELC expires. Profit from lower cap hits and then let let them off their chains to produce more. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 hour ago, SaveByRichter35 said: Its allllllll part of the plan. Don't let the kids play the PP. Stifle their production. Ensure they won't be worth much when their ELC expires. Profit from lower cap hits and then let let them off their chains to produce more. I'm digging this plan of attack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Jesus Christ you think we get at least a good player with all these draft picks,alot of swing and misses. I still have a lot of hope for some of these picks especially Lafreniere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 hour ago, SaveByRichter35 said: Its allllllll part of the plan. Don't let the kids play the PP. Stifle their production. Ensure they won't be worth much when their ELC expires. Profit from lower cap hits and then let let them off their chains to produce more. if there was any sign that it would work out this way it would be a great plan bc right now they're both playing themselves onto a cap strapped team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Just now, Valriera said: if there was any sign that it would work out this way it would be a great plan bc right now they're both playing themselves onto a cap strapped team I said it tongue in cheek but in all reality they might both be doing it for us lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 He's not even the best Kaapo in the league! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Tough to make an argument against the topic title after really watching him for two periods last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 14, 2022 Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Kevin said: Tough to make an argument against the topic title after really watching him for two periods last night. He stinks. Total floater. Complete non-factor. End-of-career Rick Nash. Absolutely zero offensive support, but he's a reliable defensive player, so we're just supposed to be OK with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Kakka. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Pete said: Kakka. Kaka was good. Kakka is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Ouch, the late stage Rich Nash analogy is far too realistic for my comfort level. Maybe Kakko will be absolutely balls to the wall in the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 14, 2022 Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 57 minutes ago, Valriera said: Ouch, the late stage Rich Nash analogy is far too realistic for my comfort level. Maybe Kakko will be absolutely balls to the wall in the playoffs? Yeah, just like Rick Nash, eh? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 I didn't realize Kappo is the softest player on the Rangers, with a total of 4 ! Hits this season. I went to the stats to try and defend him a bit but could not get over his lack of physicality. At least Laf adds that to his game ( 60 hits ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 17 minutes ago, CBrowningPI said: I didn't realize Kappo is the softest player on the Rangers, with a total of 4 ! Hits this season. I went to the stats to try and defend him a bit but could not get over his lack of physicality. At least Laf adds that to his game ( 60 hits ). It's early. You know he's (looks it up AGAIN) ONLY 20!? Who cares how many games he's played. He's a work in progress. What did you expect from the 2nd OA pick? It's not like he was the 1st OA. Jeez, some people need to learn patience. Atleast he will suck but be affordable!! Yayyy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 hour ago, CBrowningPI said: I didn't realize Kappo is the softest player on the Rangers, with a total of 4 ! Hits this season. I went to the stats to try and defend him a bit but could not get over his lack of physicality. At least Laf adds that to his game ( 60 hits ). He goes out of his way to avoid even accidently bumping into people. Was going to post it after one of his first shifts last night but did feel like piling on. There was a play in front of our bench along the boards SJ guy goes to play the puck Kakko chasing him down from center ice. SJ guy beats him to the puck buy a c-hair and flips it into the zone, Kakko completely slams on the brakes never touches the guy and skates 5 feet up the boards and steps through the door for a change. Thankfully it was late and nobody else was around because I was laughing and shaking my head just thinking about how much his board play has improved and how tough he is to play against and how that's what we're hanging our hat on these days. Can't wait for his next flash of competence a nice pass, assist, maybe even a goal over the next dozen or so games so we can pretend the last 21 games of nothing never happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ERIK- Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, CBrowningPI said: I didn't realize Kappo is the softest player on the Rangers, with a total of 4 ! Hits this season. I went to the stats to try and defend him a bit but could not get over his lack of physicality. At least Laf adds that to his game ( 60 hits ). Actually,Chytil is softer.(not counting stats) Edited January 15, 2022 by br-avery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Kakko and Lafreniere suck. They'd be in the AHL if it wasn't for Shesterkin and a powerplant they don't contribute to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 On 1/13/2022 at 8:04 AM, SaveByRichter35 said: Its allllllll part of the plan. Don't let the kids play the PP. Stifle their production. Ensure they won't be worth much when their ELC expires. Profit from lower cap hits and then let let them off their chains to produce more. Too bad Kravtsov sniffed that out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 What I find utterly amazing is that for all the bad that Kakko has been, in his rookie season he had as many pp points as Fox and Kreider. This year he has like 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 28 minutes ago, Keirik said: What I find utterly amazing is that for all the bad that Kakko has been, in his rookie season he had as many pp points as Fox and Kreider. This year he has like 2. coaches fault, needs more pp time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 12 hours ago, Pete said: Kakko and Lafreniere suck. They'd be in the AHL if it wasn't for Shesterkin and a powerplant they don't contribute to. Nah, they're both clearly nhl players. But, obviously, they're offense doesn't come close to the expectations of their draft positions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, josh said: Nah, they're both clearly nhl players. But, obviously, they're offense doesn't come close to the expectations of their draft positions I might agree with you were they grooming 3rd liners. They're not. And I don't see what makes them NHL players other than their ability to get pucks deep and not get scored on. That said, I stand by my point...If the Rangers were bottom feeders they might not be here. The wins are masking allllll the deficiencies, of which Kakko and Laf are largely responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 If it was the 94 Rangers Kakko & Lafraniere would be traded for some grinders so we could win the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 56 minutes ago, Pete said: I might agree with you were they grooming 3rd liners. They're not. And I don't see what makes them NHL players other than their ability to get pucks deep and not get scored on. That said, I stand by my point...If the Rangers were bottom feeders they might not be here. The wins are masking allllll the deficiencies, of which Kakko and Laf are largely responsible. This is the problem with watching your own team everyday. We get fixated on things that annoy us about our young guys while pointing to highlights of other youngsters around the league. End of November into December we loved Kakko's 9 points in 7 games. Laf was playing much better since Panarin went on the COVID list and was gonna be the RW on that line before going on the COVID list himself. They're still young. Consistency will come. I dont think either one of them is what's holding the Rangers back from being elite. 3C and 2 or 3 more reliable D are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 They can always play Fox half the game like Tampa does with Hedman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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