BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Do you move Lindgren in a move for Chychrun? a Fox-Chychrun top pair could be lethal. Lindgren should appeal to the Yotes. Possibly someone who can become a leadership core they build up around. Cap-wise, if giving them Lindgren also means they take Nemeth (which would also even up the cap hit) its hard to say no to that NYR Recieve Chychrun Kessel (50% retained) AZ Recieve Lindgren Nemeth Chytil 2023 2nd rounder idk im just spitballing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 My guess is Lundkvist, Kravtsov and Hajek. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, BlairBettsBlocksEverything said: Do you move Lindgren in a move for Chychrun? a Fox-Chychrun top pair could be lethal. Lindgren should appeal to the Yotes. Possibly someone who can become a leadership core they build up around. Cap-wise, if giving them Lindgren also means they take Nemeth (which would also even up the cap hit) its hard to say no to that NYR Recieve Chychrun Kessel (50% retained) AZ Recieve Lindgren Nemeth Chytil 2023 2nd rounder idk im just spitballing Nope. You don't get rid of the glue. Send em Lundkvist instead of Lindgren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, BlairBettsBlocksEverything said: Do you move Lindgren in a move for Chychrun? a Fox-Chychrun top pair could be lethal. Lindgren should appeal to the Yotes. Possibly someone who can become a leadership core they build up around. Cap-wise, if giving them Lindgren also means they take Nemeth (which would also even up the cap hit) its hard to say no to that NYR Recieve Chychrun Kessel (50% retained) AZ Recieve Lindgren Nemeth Chytil 2023 2nd rounder idk im just spitballing yeah..i dont see Lindgren surviving for too long. the guy takes a beating almost every game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, jsm7302 said: Nope. You don't get rid of the glue. Send em Lundkvist instead of Lindgren. Bitetto is the glue. We established it last season 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, BlairBettsBlocksEverything said: Do you move Lindgren in a move for Chychrun? a Fox-Chychrun top pair could be lethal. Lindgren should appeal to the Yotes. Possibly someone who can become a leadership core they build up around. Cap-wise, if giving them Lindgren also means they take Nemeth (which would also even up the cap hit) its hard to say no to that NYR Recieve Chychrun Kessel (50% retained) AZ Recieve Lindgren Nemeth Chytil 2023 2nd rounder idk im just spitballing I'd move Miller before I'd move Lindgren. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Lindgren is definitely better than Miller, I agree. But you gotta give to get. We can't assume the yotes wanna take our spare parts. Not sure where I'd stand on that type of move (take out chytil and we don't get kessel, im sure Kravstov would factor into this deal as well) but just a thought experiment. Its hard to see us trading for Chychrun and putting him on the third pair. Its also hard to see us breaking up Miller-Trouba (assuming Miller isn't a part of the deal/is still on the team). That would leave Lindgren as the trade piece to build the move around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Miller isn't a spare part, he's growing into the role. He's not really ready for 2nd pair, but if he's not moved he'd thrive on a 3rd pair with a reliable partner (Schneider). Lindgren Fox Cimmichonga Trouba Miller Schneider Collect the Cup. 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Pete said: Miller isn't a spare part, he's growing into the role. He's not really ready for 2nd pair, but if he's not moved he'd thrive on a 3rd pair with a reliable partner (Schneider). Lindgren Fox Cimmichonga Trouba Miller Schneider Collect the Cup. If he comes here, you just dubbed him!! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pete said: Miller isn't a spare part, he's growing into the role. He's not really ready for 2nd pair, but if he's not moved he'd thrive on a 3rd pair with a reliable partner (Schneider). Lindgren Fox Cimmichonga Trouba Miller Schneider Collect the Cup. spare parts might have been bad phrasing, but more just emphasizing the point that you cant expect to get players like Chychrun without giving up a valuable piece(s) in return If that is our top 6 D after a trade for Chychrun, who are you envisioning we are giving up? Chytil, Kravstov, Nemeth (assuming AZ isnt on his No Trade List, which lets be real, they likely are) and a pick? Those three guys have low value (and in Nemeth's case, negative value) so it would be 3 pieces of damaged goods for their most valuable trade asset I think they are chock full of picks this draft, and probably want to stock up on 2023 picks while they are at it, but thats not the super important part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 35 minutes ago, Pete said: Miller isn't a spare part, he's growing into the role. He's not really ready for 2nd pair, but if he's not moved he'd thrive on a 3rd pair with a reliable partner (Schneider). Lindgren Fox Cimmichonga Trouba Miller Schneider Collect the Cup. Not chimichurri? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 hours ago, CCCP said: yeah..i dont see Lindgren surviving for too long. the guy takes a beating almost every game. I mean, even if Lindgren's career only lasted 3 more seasons (which I don't know why you'd assume that), you know he's a 1st pair dman who's capable of handling top players. All we know about Chychrun is that he has bad numbers on a bad team. He could fall flat here AND he also plays a completely different role than Lindgren. It makes no sense to move one for the other. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) I rather go after Chiarot & Toffoli on Montreal. Offer Lundkvist, Chytil, Gauthier & Nemeth. Edited January 25, 2022 by RJWantsTheCup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 39 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said: I rather go after Chiarot & Toffoli on Montreal. Offer Lundkvist, Chytil, Gauthier & Nemeth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 53 minutes ago, ThirtyONE said: I mean, even if Lindgren's career only lasted 3 more seasons (which I don't know why you'd assume that), you know he's a 1st pair dman who's capable of handling top players. All we know about Chychrun is that he has bad numbers on a bad team. He could fall flat here AND he also plays a completely different role than Lindgren. It makes no sense to move one for the other. i dont think Lindgren is a first pair d-man. he plays on the first pair here but it doesnt mean that he is. and because he plays so many minutes on the first pair, he takes a lot of physical abuse. He does not exactly know how to avoid getting hit. So i think he may not last very long, ala Callahan (i did not say 3 seasons, you assumed i did) where a smaller physical player takes lot of abuse. I just dont think his body will take years of that kind of abuse and be productive. I did not advocate for Chychrun, i just pointed out Lindgren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karan Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 3 hours ago, CCCP said: yeah..i dont see Lindgren surviving for too long. the guy takes a beating almost every game. Girardi took more of a punishment most games than Lindgren does and managed to play 10+ years for the Rangers. While I partly agree with you that Lindgren probably won't be a first pair on most other teams (I think he's mostly in that position due to his chemistry with Fox), I still think there's plenty of serviceable years we can get out of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, Karan said: Girardi took more of a punishment most games than Lindgren does and managed to play 10+ years for the Rangers. While I partly agree with you that Lindgren probably won't be a first pair on most other teams (I think he's mostly in that position due to his chemistry with Fox), I still think there's plenty of serviceable years we can get out of him. moving down did wonders for McDonagh's career (mostly his health). Would have given Girardi a few more seasons, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 I don't understand why he's not a first pairing D man. Because he gets hit a lot? OK. He also hits other people a lot, doesn't make mistakes, doesn't bleed shots. No issue with Lindgren. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, Pete said: I don't understand why he's not a first pairing D man. Because he gets hit a lot? OK. He also hits other people a lot, doesn't make mistakes, doesn't bleed shots. No issue with Lindgren. Kinda like how strome isn't a 1C, but can play the part because he has great chemistry with a great player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Nothing against either player. Lindgren, by himself, isn't a top pair guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveIn94 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, josh said: Nothing against either player. Lindgren, by himself, isn't a top pair guy. I agree to an extent. To have a 2C or 2D that can slot up without a problem is not something to trade away either. Few teams can match that especially on D. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Blue Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 5 hours ago, Drew a Penalty said: I'd move Miller before I'd move Lindgren. Tops in +- despite being on a team that’s even 5 on 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, josh said: Nothing against either player. Lindgren, by himself, isn't a top pair guy. There are only a handful of defenseman in the NHL who you can say would be top pairing guys no matter who their partner is. That's really not a barometer at all. He's performing as a top pair of defenseman in the most competitive division in NHL. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 5 hours ago, BlairBettsBlocksEverything said: Do you move Lindgren in a move for Chychrun? a Fox-Chychrun top pair could be lethal. Lindgren should appeal to the Yotes. Possibly someone who can become a leadership core they build up around. Cap-wise, if giving them Lindgren also means they take Nemeth (which would also even up the cap hit) its hard to say no to that NYR Recieve Chychrun Kessel (50% retained) AZ Recieve Lindgren Nemeth Chytil 2023 2nd rounder idk im just spitballing I don’t know man. There is a nice chemistry between Fox and Lindgren. There also plenty of talent on D. I just don’t see how a big name on D is what our tradeable resources are worth giving up for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 6 hours ago, BlairBettsBlocksEverything said: Do you move Lindgren in a move for Chychrun? a Fox-Chychrun top pair could be lethal. Lindgren should appeal to the Yotes. Possibly someone who can become a leadership core they build up around. Cap-wise, if giving them Lindgren also means they take Nemeth (which would also even up the cap hit) its hard to say no to that NYR Recieve Chychrun Kessel (50% retained) AZ Recieve Lindgren Nemeth Chytil 2023 2nd rounder idk im just spitballing Absolutely not. I only move Nemeth and spare parts. No interest in a guy that reads more like Brady Skjei than a guy that the Rangers need. I keep rolling with Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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