Rangers Acquire Andrew Copp From WPG for Morgan Barron and Two 2nd-Round Picks

[josh]

Andy&Rono speculating Hajek plus 2 2nds.

 

I'm die if true

[NYR2711]

3 minutes ago, G1000 said:

 

Cmon Hajek!

Let’s hope it’s not Schneider

[Winter]

3 minutes ago, G1000 said:

 

Cmon Hajek!

better not be Lundkvist lmao we didnt get Schiefele here just a role player 

[LindG1000]

Alright, c'mon. What's the return?

[RJWantsTheCup]

How long does it take to announce the complete trade?

 

[LindG1000]

Just now, RJWantsTheCup said:

How long does it take to announce the complete trade?

 

 

It's a classic TDL thing - the league offices are jammed up.

[RichieNextel305]

1 minute ago, rmc51 said:

You guys are underrating Copp. He has paced 58 and 51 points last year and this year, most of which at even strength playing 18-20 minutes a night. He chews up minutes in all situations.

 

He’s absolutely a potential 2C option if Strome is getting too expensive.

It’s not out of the question. But to me, his true value comes as a 3C.

 

If you can have him chipping in 15-20 centering a 3rd line and in all situations while your Top 2 centers are Zibanejad and whoever else is on the Panarin line? That’s a super deep lineup.

[RichieNextel305]

Okay, I’ll ask: is there more to this trade? I feel like if it’s 2 picks and a prospect, it’s routine to just be announced by now.

[jsm7302]

Just now, RichieNextel305 said:

It’s not out of the question. But to me, his true value comes as a 3C.

 

If you can have him chipping in 15-20 centering a 3rd line and in all situations while your Top 2 centers are Zibanejad and whoever else is on the Panarin line? That’s a super deep lineup.

Agreed but that would take some salary cap gymnastics to retain both; if Copp performs and is cheaper then you have to really think hard.

[Pete]

6 minutes ago, Keirik said:

Worked well for Strome who perennial had 35 point seasons, sans his first full year, until he found a guy named Artemi.

 

 I’m not sure we can just dismiss it so easily. That’s all.

You know it's not that simple so I'm not going to get into the fact that Strome has pedigree as a #5 overall, etc. Strome had never been a checking line player because he's good defensively, which is why Copp is a checking line center.

 

It's break even or a downgrade so I'm just not sure why they'd do that.

[josh]

3 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said:

Okay, I’ll ask: is there more to this trade? I feel like if it’s 2 picks and a prospect, it’s routine to just be announced by now.

Drury doesnt talk. That's why I didnt believe rumors when they say the Rangers are involved. He'll shut guys out for leaking info.

 

Want to keep quiet in case trade doesnt go through. You might have an upset prospect and/or player

Edited March 21, 2022 by josh

[LindG1000]

 

Might be a bit here.

[Cash or Czech]

Who can get sent down without waivers? Schneider? Might send him down if we didn't deal a roster player, which would suck because he deserves to be with the team.

 

Defensive prospect not named Lundkvist could also be Skinner or Robertson. I highly doubt Hajek is the centerpiece unless we sent high picks. 

[josh]

Just now, Cash or Czech said:

Who can get sent down without waivers? Schneider? Might send him down if we didn't deal a roster player, which would suck because he deserves to be with the team.

 

Defensive prospect not named Lundkvist could also be Skinner or Robertson. I highly doubt Hajek is the centerpiece unless we sent high picks. 

Lafreniere, Miller, Schneider.

 

I think even Brodzinski played over the threshold and is subject to waivers.

[BrooksBurner]

Just now, Pete said:

You know it's not that simple so I'm not going to get into the fact that Strome has pedigree as a #5 overall, etc. Strome had never been a checking line player because he's good defensively, which is why Copp is a checking line center.

 

It's break even or a downgrade so I'm just not sure why they'd do that.

If Copp extension is at 4 and Strome wants 6, that’s why. Especially since Copp does everything that Strome can’t.

[Cash or Czech]

1 minute ago, josh said:

Lafreniere, Miller, Schneider.

 

I think even Brodzinski played over the threshold and is subject to waivers.

 

So a roster player has to be going somewhere.

[LindG1000]

So there's that.

[Pete]

1 minute ago, rmc51 said:

If Copp extension is at 4 and Strome wants 6, that’s why. Especially since Copp does everything that Strome can’t.

Your opinion is skewed so not bothering answering.

[torontonyr]

If we get him on retention I wonder if this allows us to consider a big C swing in the summer (Kane?) and let Strome go.

[Keirik]

1 minute ago, Pete said:

You know it's not that simple so I'm not going to get into the fact that Strome has pedigree as a #5 overall, etc. Strome had never been a checking line player because he's good defensively, which is why Copp is a checking line center.

 

It's break even or a downgrade so I'm just not sure why they'd do that.

I’m not saying it’s an exact seamless switch but I’m not discounting it. We are talking about 

13 goals 22 assists for Copp

14 goals 29 assists for Strome so production wise it’s not a huge difference but we get a two way center instead that can win a faceoff. Production is especially not a big difference to me since Copp doesn’t play with Bread. 
 

     If Strome asks upper 6 and instead you can do 4.5-5.2 for Copp, I might do that since it gives us a bit more flexibility elsewhere. Copp plays very important minutes that could give Ziby a bit of a rest too here and there

[josh]

2 minutes ago, torontonyr said:

If we get him on retention I wonder if this allows us to consider a big C swing in the summer (Kane?) and let Strome go.

Copp an UFA

[BrooksBurner]

3 minutes ago, Pete said:

Your opinion is skewed so not bothering answering.

I don’t know what that means. I gave you stats and realistic contract numbers. Hate the game not the player, homie.

[torontonyr]

1 minute ago, josh said:

Copp an UFA

Ah well I missed that, thanks!

[jsm7302]

3 minutes ago, Keirik said:

I’m not saying it’s an exact seamless switch but I’m not discounting it. We are talking about 

13 goals 22 assists for Copp

14 goals 29 assists for Strome so production wise it’s not a huge difference but we get a two way center instead that can win a faceoff. Production is especially not a big difference to me since Copp doesn’t play with Bread. 
 

     If Strome asks upper 6 and instead you can do 4.5-5.2 for Copp, I might do that since it gives us a bit more flexibility elsewhere. Copp plays very important minutes that could give Ziby a bit of a rest too here and there

I think this gets filed under, "Let's hope so". That would make this deal even bigger. Would put pressure on the endboard abuser to take a reasonable team friendly deal.

[RichieNextel305]

5 minutes ago, torontonyr said:

If we get him on retention I wonder if this allows us to consider a big C swing in the summer (Kane?) and let Strome go.

There would be no reason we’d need Copp on retention since he’s pending UFA and we have $30+ Mil in cap space.