siddious Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 27 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: It wouldn't surprise me. Although honestly, before Kane, this team had done a pretty good job at not doing that. At least for ones that were past their prime anyway. They still overpaid for some players, but the "same old Rangers" people go on about would sign all the old ones like it was going out of style. Drury just went out and got Kane because he didn't cost a ton, although you could argue it did more harm than good to the chemistry and everything in the long run. Sure, they'll overpay for someone, but I'd still like to be able to keep some of these guys together for the long haul going forward. They haven’t really done what they used to do before the salary cap but they still do over pay. Trouba, Panarin, Goodrow contracts all suck. In the case of Panarin and Goodrow they were UFA signings so they didn’t really set the price I guess. Trouba contract was plain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 19 hours ago, CCCP said: Does it matter? Rangers will still sign someone and overpay tremendously, and then we’ll again be sitting here waiting for the cap to go up The last time they grossly overpaid someone, it was Trouba. I think Drury will do a much better job with the contracts then Gorton did. When you think about it, he was a pretty shitty GM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, siddious said: They haven’t really done what they used to do before the salary cap but they still do over pay. Trouba, Panarin, Goodrow contracts all suck. In the case of Panarin and Goodrow they were UFA signings so they didn’t really set the price I guess. Trouba contract was plain stupid. This is the only bad contract of the one you listed. The other two are completely fair deals in free agency. Whether or not you think the Rangers should be paying those guys is a different story, but they are certainly paid their worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 27 minutes ago, Pete said: The last time they grossly overpaid someone, it was Trouba. I think Drury will do a much better job with the contracts then Gorton did. When you think about it, he was a pretty shitty GM. Fox—too much too soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 53 minutes ago, Pete said: This is the only bad contract of the one you listed. The other two are completely fair deals in free agency. Whether or not you think the Rangers should be paying those guys is a different story, but they are certainly paid their worth. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 28 minutes ago, CCCP said: Fox—too much too soon. I need you to stop your Kreider and Fox takes this morning. It’s making me flaccid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 38 minutes ago, CCCP said: Fox—too much too soon. The argument can be made I guess but at least the contract and the player are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: I need you to stop your Kreider and Fox takes this morning. It’s making me flaccid Would you like me to make you hard again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, siddious said: The argument can be made I guess but at least the contract and the player are correct. I think a good GM would’ve been fine with giving him $6M or so for couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, CCCP said: I think a good GM would’ve been fine with giving him $6M or so for couple of years. And a good agent would have said fuck off. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Yeah, what Pete said. The Trouba contract is awful. Maybe not Wade Redden levels of bad, but still quite bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Pete said: And a good agent would have said fuck off. The GM is the sucker here. Fox only wanted to play for the Rangers. A discount should’ve came with it. Same with Trouba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, CCCP said: The GM is the sucker here. Fox only wanted to play for the Rangers. A discount should’ve came with it. Same with Trouba. Trouba yes, Fox no. You have Subban making 9M at the time, You could argue that they already got a discount on Fox. He was coming off of Norris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, Pete said: Trouba yes, Fox no. You have Subban making 9M at the time, You could argue that they already got a discount on Fox. He was coming off of Norris. Subban was a vet and an ex UFA. Fox was on his second contract. Norris could’ve been an anomaly. Why not see if he is truly is who he showed in that one season before giving him the bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 2 hours ago, CCCP said: Subban was a vet and an ex UFA. Fox was on his second contract. Norris could’ve been an anomaly. Why not see if he is truly is who he showed in that one season before giving him the bank Because there's a chance they would have had to pay him $14M. Turns out he's a Norris finalist again. Why would you not just pay your players who are performing and treat them right? I'd rather overpay a little (early in the deal, later it'll be a steal) for a player in their prime than one approaching UFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Pete said: Because there's a chance they would have had to pay him $14M. Turns out he's a Norris finalist again. Why would you not just pay your players who are performing and treat them right? I'd rather overpay a little (early in the deal, later it'll be a steal) for a player in their prime than one approaching UFA. I guess, but it feels like $9M in his second contract is too much but Keirik agrees with me, and he has a gun, so eff off Edited May 27, 2023 by CCCP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RichieNextel305 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) All of the other major sports saw significant bumps in the cap and luxury tax threshold over the last few years. Yet we sit yet another season with a flat cap. It sucks, nothing more nothing less. And it’s not fair to parameters to work through for these teams. Edited June 5, 2023 by RichieNextel305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 4 hours ago, RichieNextel305 said: All of the other major sports saw significant bumps in the cap and luxury tax threshold over the last few years. Yet we sit yet another season with a flat cap. It sucks, nothing more nothing less. And it’s not fair to parameters to work through for these teams. teams shouldnt sign contracts they would immediately regret. Cap increase only benefits the players. While the cap increase gives some relief from bad or expensive contracts, the GMs will not spend the additional cap room wisely, but sign another player to a overinflated price. Its a vicious circle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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