GDT [RS #18] Rangers at Seattle Kraken — Sleep Endurance Test # 1

[Sharpshooter]

Just now, mbob said:

Starting to feel like ground hog day 

unfortunately this statement is spot on, you pretty much are what you are soon in the season and we aren’t good. Damn cap makes it hard to shake things up with a move too. 

Yeah and with limited cap space going in, they were depending on Lafreniere, Kakko and Cythil to really step up. It's happened to a degree, but the results simply are not there. Add to that a porous defense, led by a dreadful Trouba and a more human Shesterkin, and here we are.

[Rangers]

Dammit, why can’t I be a a fucking devils fan!? I live in Jersey 

[cupalife]

They are pathetic 5 on 5.  There are a lot of "stars" on this team to have so many problems generating offense.  

[Bugg]

1 minute ago, Sharpshooter said:

Yeah and with limited cap space going in, they were depending on Lafreniere, Kakko and Cythil to really step up. It's happened to a degree, but the results simply are not there. Add to that a porous defense, led by a dreadful Trouba and a more human Shesterkin, and here we are.

Not one of those guys got a sniff in OT. 

[Sharpshooter]

Just now, Bugg said:

Not one of those guys got a sniff in OT. 

Is that fucked or what? Vesey and Goodrow are out there getting consistent shifts. Like....what!?

[RichieNextel305]

I think the most annoying thing about them is the lack of urgency. They float along a good chunk of games. There just is no push. The shot totals are there. But they’ve been there all year.
 

There is so much elite talent here. So much. But, I just don’t know. I don’t know how this is going to shake out here.

 

I know the space is tight, but we’re approaching the point where Drury may need to get involved and do something to rattle the room up a bit. Because you can’t go much longer slushing along alternating wins, losses and OTL’s.

[Sharpshooter]

2 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said:

I think the most annoying thing about them is the lack of urgency. They float along a good chunk of games. There just is no push. The shot totals are there. But they’ve been there all year.
 

There is so much elite talent here. So much. But, I just don’t know. I don’t know how this is going to shake out here.

 

I know the space is tight, but we’re approaching the point where Drury may need to get involved and do something to rattle the room up a bit. Because you can’t go much longer slushing along alternating wins, losses and OTL’s.

I feel like this team is just a hodge podge right now. They're the vision of two different General Managers and there's no rhyme or reason. It's been a huge drop off from this year to the next.

Edited November 18, 2022 by Sharpshooter

[Albatrosss]

Fucking 1/4 of the team’s cap cant produce an even strength point. 

[Sod16]

One point out of 5 OT/SO sessions.  Good way to miss the playoffs.

 

Where is the talent gap in these OTs?

[RichieNextel305]

I think it’s absolutely absurd that Kakko and Lafreniere got no sniffs in OT, as others have said.

 

BUT…..

 

I have been defending them from the jump, both of them. And while the eye test is certainly positive (especially in Kakko’s case), this is a results driven business. We walked into this season knowing we needed more production from them and we just haven’t gotten it. Playing in the Top-6, and then merging together on the Kid Line, the goals just aren’t there. I’m not insinuating white flag waving here, but for us to have any chance, that’s going to have to change. And fast.

[Albatrosss]

Fucking im not even sleepy right now 

[Sharpshooter]

Just now, RichieNextel305 said:

I think it’s absolutely absurd that Kakko and Lafreniere got no sniffs in OT, as others have said.

 

BUT…..

 

I have been defending them from the jump, both of them. And while the eye test is certainly positive (especially in Kakko’s case), this is a results driven business. We walked into this season knowing we needed more production from them and we just haven’t gotten it. Playing in the Top-6, and then merging together on the Kid Line, the goals just aren’t there. I’m not insinuating white flag waving here, but for us to have any chance, that’s going to have to change. And fast.

Yeah, honestly Vesey has been quite good in his role. I don't blame coaching necessarily for Lafreniere or Chytil getting time. Lafreniere hasn't done a whole lot and Chytil had a bad turnover that led to a goal against.

[RichieNextel305]

1 minute ago, Sod16 said:

One point out of 5 OT/SO sessions.  Good way to miss the playoffs.

 

Where is the talent gap in these OTs?

They play like fucking idiots in OT, plain and simple. And it’s indicative of the way they play during games: passive and soft. I have never seen a team overthink in OT than this team.

[Rangers]

1 minute ago, Sharpshooter said:

Yeah, honestly Vesey has been quite good in his role. I don't blame coaching necessarily for Lafreniere or Chytil getting time. Lafreniere hasn't done a whole lot and Chytil had a bad turnover that led to a goal against.

I do, when your team is not scoring 5 on 5, its coaches job to break down the game and teach no matter how much talent you have. 

[Albatrosss]

How about Trouchek’s stache tho?  Niiiice

[Sharpshooter]

1 minute ago, CCCP said:

How about Trouchek’s stache tho?  Niiiice

Is Trouba growing one too? They all look terrible.

[Sharpshooter]

2 minutes ago, Rangers said:

I do, when your team is not scoring 5 on 5, its coaches job to break down the game and teach no matter how much talent you have. 

They really haven't scored 5 on 5 since Gallant got here. lol

[RichieNextel305]

By the way, I’m just about over Sammy Blais. There just is nothing he does even remotely close to good. Blame the injury, don’t blame the injury. I don’t care. But we’re talking about Reaves bringing nothing to the lineup, and then we dress this slog every single night? Personally, I believe he should see some time in street clothes too. Maybe it’s just me? But I don’t really see a place for him on this roster. And regardless of where this season sails off to, I would be pretty shocked if he was still on the boat come crunch time. I don’t see him really lasting here. 

[Sharpshooter]

Just now, RichieNextel305 said:

By the way, I’m just about over Sammy Blais. There just is nothing he does even remotely close to good. Blame the injury, don’t blame the injury. I don’t care. But we’re talking about Reaves bringing nothing to the lineup, and then we dress this slog every single night? Personally, I believe he should see some time in street clothes too. Maybe it’s just me? But I don’t really see a place for him on this roster. And regardless of where this season sails off to, I would be pretty shocked if he was still on the boat come crunch time. I don’t see him really lasting here. 

What a disastrous trade.

[Scott]

Each of the top two lines is playing with a plug on it now. The third line hasn't lived up to the hype based on the 5-6 game Chytil heater stretch in last year's playoffs points wise. Kakko and Laf both had shots on the top lines and didn't stick/produce. What's his name had 3 decent shifts and 4 injuries. The D isn't good, the backup is 0-fer. 

 

Like @RichieNextel305

said it's gotten late early.  What we have here isn't good enough. 

[Rangers]

1 minute ago, RichieNextel305 said:

By the way, I’m just about over Sammy Blais. There just is nothing he does even remotely close to good. Blame the injury, don’t blame the injury. I don’t care. But we’re talking about Reaves bringing nothing to the lineup, and then we dress this slog every single night? Personally, I believe he should see some time in street clothes too. Maybe it’s just me? But I don’t really see a place for him on this roster. And regardless of where this season sails off to, I would be pretty shocked if he was still on the boat come crunch time. I don’t see him really lasting here. 

Least of your problems, I’m more concerned with Laff, Kakka, Chytil not taking the next step. 

That’s 3 first round picks

[RichieNextel305]

Just now, Rangers said:

Least of your problems, I’m more concerned with Laff, Kakka, Chytil not taking the next step. 

That’s 3 first round picks

I already covered those 3. They’re issues.

 

The effort and chances are there. But at some point, it has to stop being “oooh so close” and more of pucks in the back of the net. Enough is enough.

[RichieNextel305]

Let’s call it what it is: walking into the year, we were relying on Lafreniere and Kakko stepping up, along with guys like Kravtsov and Blais go make up for losing depth guys like Vatrano and Copp.

 

Lafreniere, Kakko, Kravtsov and Blais have combined for 5 goals. It’s mid-November. 5. Goals.

 

And 2 of them have none.

 

Something needs to be fixed.

[Scott]

12 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said:

Is Trouba growing one too? They all look terrible.

They're god awful but it's for a good cause every year. At least they're getting that right. 

 

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[Sharpshooter]

1 minute ago, RichieNextel305 said:

Let’s call it what it is: walking into the year, we were relying on Lafreniere and Kakko stepping up, along with guys like Kravtsov and Blais go make up for losing depth guys like Vatrano and Copp.

 

Lafreniere, Kakko, Kravtsov and Blais have combined for 5 goals. It’s mid-November. 5. Goals.

 

And 2 of them have none.

 

Something needs to be fixed.

It's a dual problem. Poor coaching and poor roster construction. I know those guys you mentioned have been disappointing, but some of the moves Drury has made make you scratch your head. Is this a year where you just have to wait for contracts to be over and make some deals? This is an average team at its best right now.