Playoffs 2022-23 ECQF #4: Rangers vs. New Jersey Devils — LFG!

[Gravesy]

1 hour ago, The Dude said:

I don't think anyone has made that comparison.  It's just the overall disappointment in how useless Lafrenière actually is. Kakko atleast has some battle level.  He's not pushed around and he's generating opportunities.  Lafrenière does pretty much nothing right now. Its a matter of competency.  It not a matter of comparison.  The Rangers should be able to lean on Lafrenière  and the kid line. They should once again be getting the favorable match ups. But they really aren't making any difference.  They aren’t really even cycling the puck and wearing down defenders. They aren’t making the Devils work. 

 

IMO most of that stems from Lafrenières weak play and inability or non interest in carrying the puck. .. When he does... They look better.  Fucking kid had a great chance in OT when he took it to the net.

 

I'm tired of his enter the zone and instantly curl back along the boards crap. It almost every possession where he brings the puck in. Chytil will at least bring it in with speed and try to get it deep,  then decide what he's going to do. Oddly Kakko rarely carries the puck in, despite being the strongest guy on the puck.. 

 

To wrap it up, Lafrenière is lost right now. It's not a comparison to Hughes. It's a matter of why isnt there more depth so they can slide him down or out. I mean,  does anybody want to see Vesey get more ice? I'd  be ok with Goodrow sliding up, but like I said.  There goes your 4 C. 

 

Lafrenière not being very good obviously isn't the biggest issue here. But it's an issue and it should be addressed. 

I mean, sure. It wasn’t a defense of Laf.

My point was, watching the game I knew I’d come in here and see tons of posts about how great Hughes is and how shit our high picks are. And whilst that is undoubtedly true, it doesn’t even merit mention in the game thread because a) it’s old news and b) the real problem isn’t that our disappointing kids on the third line look meh, it’s that our actual good players were completely outclassed by theirs. 

[Ozzy]

The Devils scored 3 goals in 2 games against Shesty...that's it!

 

We should be winning, or have won this already....but we haven't....yet! 

 

We will.  Gotta put this shit behind us and focus on Game 5....we'll make some changes, then come out and take it back.

[Duguay10]

3 hours ago, Pete said:

The Rangers are slow so they should trade their fastest and best skating defenseman?

 

Takes are this morning. 

Yea but he's average at best. If we wants to sign for a discount, OK. Bread the same thing, for half the money, sure I'd keep him. Kane is done, and Trouba is OK for less money. 

[NY Chief]

The whole team stunk up the joint the last two games. All no shows reminding me of the teams my Dad called "Emile's Fat Cats". BUT....I'm sorry, IF Vezina Igor showed up the series is over. Amirte??????

[NY Chief]

14 minutes ago, Duguay10 said:

Yea but he's average at best. If we wants to sign for a discount, OK. Bread the same thing, for half the money, sure I'd keep him. Kane is done, and Trouba is OK for less money. 

The Wandering Miller?

[Duguay10]

16 minutes ago, NY Chief said:

The Wandering Miller?

Yes....at best he is an average D-man. We probably can get the same production for less cost next year. 

[mbob]

12 hours ago, Ozzy said:

A very frustrating, and uninspiring game to watch tonight.  Igor gets beat by a rather low % chance right after we finally tie it up....I mean how many times have we been through that??

I find it really difficult to believe that this team played this flat in pretty much a "must" game!

 

Ahhh whatever, we just sucked tonight!  Here are the Top 8 nominees for last night's “Ozzy Quote of the GDT”:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can we ever do things an easier way?  I guess not!! 

We give up basically 3 goals in 2 home playoff games and lose both games???  You're fucking kidding right??

Thursday we get our shit back in gear.  We're too talented to lose to these fucking turds!…and the winning quote for tonight’s GDT goes to Pete @siddious who successfully pinpointed how terrible we were at winning any puck battles last night.

 

 

Hey I should get an assist for teeing up Chief:

Can we get a rush door dash delivery of extra strength Viagra to the garden for these cocktail franks?

 

Where's the official scorer review?

 

[Blue Heaven]

46 minutes ago, Ozzy said:

The Devils scored 3 goals in 2 games against Shesty...that's it!

 

We should be winning, or have won this already....but we haven't....yet! 

 

We will.  Gotta put this shit behind us and focus on Game 5....we'll make some changes, then come out and take it back.

Are you sure about that when we got this guy behind the bench

[Ozzy]

2 minutes ago, Blue Heaven said:

Are you sure about that when we got this guy behind the bench

 

We've won in spite of him all year.  This won't be any different.  These guys have been here and done this before...even the kids.  They know what needs to be done.

 

They'll do it!  I believe in this team's players, and quite honestly, I'm not really worried about it right now.  I kinda figured deep down this one would go at least 6 games.  It's the Rangers....it's never easy, Blue!  You know that!  LOL

 

The boys will get their shit together, and beat these punks.  I think of it as..."Now we know what NOT to do!"  No sweat fellas, and no use getting crazy about it.

[Ozzy]

20 minutes ago, mbob said:

 

Hey I should get an assist for teeing up Chief:

Can we get a rush door dash delivery of extra strength Viagra to the garden for these cocktail franks?

 

Where's the official scorer review?

 

 

I may have to make that a stat for next year!  Some of the back and forth banter definitely tee'd up a few good one's this year!

[The Dude]

7 hours ago, Gravesy said:

I mean, sure. It wasn’t a defense of Laf.

My point was, watching the game I knew I’d come in here and see tons of posts about how great Hughes is and how shit our high picks are. And whilst that is undoubtedly true, it doesn’t even merit mention in the game thread because a) it’s old news and b) the real problem isn’t that our disappointing kids on the third line look meh, it’s that our actual good players were completely outclassed by theirs. 

There's a lot wrong with the last 2 games. Lafrenière is part of what has been wrong. He hasn't been  "meh"  He's been ineffective and useless.  

 

I don't understand the gripe. What does the Hughes talk have to do with a few of us shitting on Lafrenière?

 

The shitting on is very widespread. Zibanejad, Kane, Panarin, Fox and the guy leading the league in playoff goals (Kreider) at the moment, have all gotten their fair share of hate. 

 

Again.  It's not a comparison.  It's  legitimate issues that our 3rd line isn't doing anything. #13 especially. It's part of the problem. Not sure why he's off limits.  

[Pete]

8 hours ago, Gravesy said:

I mean, sure. It wasn’t a defense of Laf.

My point was, watching the game I knew I’d come in here and see tons of posts about how great Hughes is and how shit our high picks are. And whilst that is undoubtedly true, it doesn’t even merit mention in the game thread because a) it’s old news and b) the real problem isn’t that our disappointing kids on the third line look meh, it’s that our actual good players were completely outclassed by theirs. 

It's actually both. And it makes the kids look twice as bad because while other team's picks are their leading scorers, ours can't even provide secondary scoring.

 

Also, I wouldn't say "outclassed", but maybe just "outperformed".

Edited April 25, 2023 by Pete

[Sharpshooter]

As bad as the other night was, I won't officially panic unless we lose tomorrow.

[Bieser]

2 hours ago, Sharpshooter said:

As bad as the other night was, I won't officially panic unless we lose tomorrow.

After a day or so of licking my wounds I can't agree with this more.  If we win tomorrow, they may start to taste acid again.  

[Gravesy]

15 hours ago, Pete said:

And it makes the kids look twice as bad because while other team's picks are their leading scorers, ours can't even provide secondary scoring.

But we've known for a very long time that our picks are nothing to write home about, and that they aren't anywhere near what their draft pedigree told us they were. The other teams picks are their leading scorers because they are legit top 6 players. It seems pretty ridiculous to keep expecting these kids to be something that they are evidently not. 

So whilst it would be helpful if our 3rd and 4th line could chip in with secondary scoring, the real problem over the last two games is that our top guys got 10 tries at the PP and scored 0, and can barely produce anything at all 5v5. 

 

[Pete]

45 minutes ago, Gravesy said:

But we've known for a very long time that our picks are nothing to write home about, and that they aren't anywhere near what their draft pedigree told us they were. The other teams picks are their leading scorers because they are legit top 6 players. It seems pretty ridiculous to keep expecting these kids to be something that they are evidently not.

I don't think anyone is. It's just that when you see other team's #1 scoring 40 goals and then you see Laf who can't even sustain a 40 second shift without dying, it's a tough pill to swallow. And now we're playing them so it's more in your face. It's jealousy. You can know your ex GF has a new BF, but you have see them together every other night, you're gonna have something to say about it.

 

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So whilst it would be helpful if our 3rd and 4th line could chip in with secondary scoring, the real problem over the last two games is that our top guys got 10 tries at the PP and scored 0, and can barely produce anything at all 5v5. 

They are both real problems of equal size, IMO.

[BrooksBurner]