The Athletic Pronman: New York Rangers Rank No. 15 in NHL Pipeline Rankings for 2023

[SaveByRichter35]

On 8/23/2023 at 5:46 PM, Sharpshooter said:

Lafreniere's ceiling right now is Pat Maroon.

So riddle me this.  Will Laugh get his cups with the Rangers or after he leaves?

[Br4d]

Maroon is in no way comparable to Lafreniere.

 

People just don't understand what it means to get NHL exposure at 19,20,21.

 

Maroon was 23 his first season in the NHL.  He was 25 the first season he played more than 13 games.

 

If you don't think about what early exposure means in terms of where you will be in the prime of your career it is easy just to look at numbers for comparisons but those are among the least valid indicators of what the future portends when you are comparing 19 and 23 year old rookies.

[Br4d]

The guy Lafreniere is kind of comparable to is Zibanejad.  Not wholly so but similar disappointment profiles early on.  The Senators did give Zibanejad more opportunities than Lafreniere has had so far but they were a much worse team and had no choice.

 

Lafreniere had 19 even strength goals at the age of 20 in 21-22.  Zibanejad did not score that many even strength goals in a season until he was 26.

[The Dude]

6 hours ago, Br4d said:

The guy Lafreniere is kind of comparable to is Zibanejad.  Not wholly so but similar disappointment profiles early on.  The Senators did give Zibanejad more opportunities than Lafreniere has had so far but they were a much worse team and had no choice.

 

Lafreniere had 19 even strength goals at the age of 20 in 21-22.  Zibanejad did not score that many even strength goals in a season until he was 26.

He's  Benoit Pouliot.

 

Won't get it together. Moves around the league somewhat faltering,  only to put it half way together on another "show me" contract with some middling team and turning THAT into a payday from some desperate team looking for ok production.  Then fades into obscurity. 

Edited September 10, 2023 by The Dude

[Pete]

3 hours ago, The Dude said:

He's  Benoit Pouliot.

 

Won't get it together. Moves around the league somewhat faltering,  only to put it half way together on another "show me" contract with some middling team and turning THAT into a payday from some desperate team looking for ok production.  Then fades into obscurity. 

Laugh's career might be closer to Guillaume Latendresse. 

[Br4d]

6 hours ago, The Dude said:

He's  Benoit Pouliot.

 

Won't get it together. Moves around the league somewhat faltering,  only to put it half way together on another "show me" contract with some middling team and turning THAT into a payday from some desperate team looking for ok production.  Then fades into obscurity. 

 

This is just a laughable take.

[BrooksBurner]

8 hours ago, The Dude said:

He's  Benoit Pouliot.

There’s a line between legitimate deserved criticism, and hyperbole. You’ve blown past that line doing 120 mph here.

[Pete]

1 hour ago, BrooksBurner said:

There’s a line between legitimate deserved criticism, and hyperbole. You’ve blown past that line doing 120 mph here.

Odd comment coming from you. 

Edited September 10, 2023 by Pete
Removed he who shall not be named without whining.

[RangersIn7]

7 hours ago, Pete said:

Laugh's career might be closer to Guillaume Latendresse. 

Latendresse was actually a decent player before the concussions. 
 

[Pete]

47 minutes ago, RangersIn7 said:

Latendresse was actually a decent player before the concussions. 
 

And that's all he ever was, decent. Not a first overall, however highly touted as the second coming of whomever, never panned out that way. 

Edited September 10, 2023 by Pete

[RangersIn7]

2 hours ago, Pete said:

And that's all he ever was, decent. Not a first overall, however highly touted as the second coming of whomever, never panned out that way. 

I was just speaking in terms of Latendresse.

 

[The Dude]

10 hours ago, Br4d said:

 

This is just a laughable take.

He'll be opportunistic as a free agent atleast 3 times after he leaves here. 

[The Dude]

9 hours ago, BrooksBurner said:

There’s a line between legitimate deserved criticism, and hyperbole. You’ve blown past that line doing 120 mph here.

Is that too high of a goal? It's year 4. Still waiting for any kind of remarkable play from this guy. The consensus is- he's a good 3rd liner. 

 

 "If that's a fact.  Am I lying?"

[Br4d]

34 minutes ago, The Dude said:

He'll be opportunistic as a free agent atleast 3 times after he leaves here. 

Even if that were true he'd still be 10x the player that you compared him too.

[The Dude]

1 minute ago, Br4d said:

Even if that were true he'd still be 10x the player that you compared him too.

[Sharpshooter]

On 9/9/2023 at 7:12 PM, Br4d said:

The guy Lafreniere is kind of comparable to is Zibanejad.  Not wholly so but similar disappointment profiles early on.  The Senators did give Zibanejad more opportunities than Lafreniere has had so far but they were a much worse team and had no choice.

 

Lafreniere had 19 even strength goals at the age of 20 in 21-22.  Zibanejad did not score that many even strength goals in a season until he was 26.

For a team that has struggled to score at even strength, I don't think his goal totals there should be understated. People may say it was only taking advantage of plays made by others, but still.

On 9/10/2023 at 5:21 AM, Pete said:

Laugh's career might be closer to Guillaume Latendresse. 

Wow, that name.

[Pete]

1 hour ago, Sharpshooter said:

For a team that has struggled to score at even strength, I don't think his goal totals there should be understated. People may say it was only taking advantage of plays made by others, but still.

Wow, that name.

He coincidentally wore #84

[RangersIn7]

16 hours ago, The Dude said:

Is that too high of a goal? It's year 4. Still waiting for any kind of remarkable play from this guy. The consensus is- he's a good 3rd liner. 

 

 "If that's a fact.  Am I lying?"

As of now, that is correct. Cause that’s all he’s shown himself to be thus far.

 

The matter for debate is whether or not there’s more there, and if so, how much.