lefty9 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 6 hours ago, Valriera said: See this one is just not a good idea. Kakko is big, strong, and pins the puck in the offensive zone better than almost anyone, and what's more is that he's cheap since he can't score. I dislike him as much as the next guy, but I promise whomever you replace him with at 2.5ish million is never going to be better, and never going to have the upside. This guy is a no-brainer keep for me, even though he's frustrating AF. Please ,no to Kakko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 I’m in no rush to move him as he’s still young and cheap and can play a valuable role for an affordable price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuddyInTheMiddle Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 I don't think that they have to trade him, but they only have 4 wing spots available on the bottom 2 lines. Right now you have: Kaako Cullye Vesey Rempe Brodzinski Chytil(possibly if they upgrade at Center and don't move him to Kreider & Mika's line) In the pipeline: Othmann Edstrom Berard As well as maybe the following names the season afterwards: Chmelar Rooerbroeck McConnel-Barker Laba Have no issue with resigning him for 2.5 million for the role he plays. Eventually he may get pushed out to make room for someone who gives them the same production at a lower cap hit and has a more physical game. We should shed no tears if that is how it ends up shaking out over the next 2 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers1994 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 12 hours ago, BrooksBurner said: The Rangers have to pick a lane first. Win now: dump Kakko, get tougher Prioritize future: give Kakko some more time, see if signs of top 6 can surface. I’m the 2nd lane. Anyone under 25 gets more leash to show if they deserve to be part of the future, even Kakko. Winning now takes a backseat. And replace Kakko with whom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 7 minutes ago, Rangers1994 said: And replace Kakko with whom? You. Can you skate? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers1994 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 1 minute ago, BrooksBurner said: You. Can you skate? Not well. Seriously, what would be your ideal return? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 1 minute ago, Rangers1994 said: Not well. Seriously, what would be your ideal return? He’s worth a 2nd round pick, but I said my preference is to hold onto him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers1994 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 2 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: He’s worth a 2nd round pick, but I said my preference is to hold onto him If he can improve defensively on Line 3 then yes, keep him. The bigger are concerns are Laf and Shesterkin. Drury needs to lock them up before training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Just now, Rangers1994 said: Not well. Seriously, what would be your ideal return? The ideal return? That he takes Trouba with him and we get the cap relief. I doubt it's really possible, but I'd call two teams. San Jose and Chicago. Both have a great amount of cap space this offseason and both are in a poisition where a large salary really doesn't kill them in the next two years. It would likely be a sign and trade in terms of Kakko for 2 years where they are enticed enough to think they get a prospect that needs a change of scenery and a veteran "leader" that can mentor an upcoming team. Maybe ring Anaheim too. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 San Jose is going to be on his list of teams he can’t be traded to. Chicago might be a possibility. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 4 Author Share Posted June 4 More on Kakko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Phil said: More on Kakko: This isn't "more", it's the same 3 things he said to Marek. Hot take: KK will be here because he's cheap and the Rangers have no cap flexibility. IF he gets beat out by Berard or someone, they'll waive him. Edited June 4 by Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 9 minutes ago, Phil said: More on Kakko: I dunno, this Phil Kocher guy seems sketchy. Unreliable. 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 I appreciate his honesty here. It sucks it hasn’t worked for him offensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Just now, RichieNextel305 said: I appreciate his honesty here. It sucks it hasn’t worked for him offensively. His exact words were: “ WOW! Nice opportunity! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 The Kakko situation is way down on our to do list for the summer. If he kicks around here indefinitely as a $2.1m per year good defensive third line player, it won't bother me much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 5 Author Share Posted June 5 Kaapo Kakko’s Rangers tenure should be over — but only at right trade price Quote I don’t think the Rangers necessarily need to move on from Kaapo Kakko, who at the very least is a conscientious and effective checking-type winger that contenders covet, but I think it’s probably best for the Finn to move on from the Rangers. There’s just been so much disappointment over the last five years. It’s five years — two of which were interrupted by significant injuries — but in a lot of ways, it feels like Kakko hasn’t even started yet despite having played 300 NHL games since his 2019 second-overall selection. Quote But the Blueshirts cannot afford to simply give away a valuable piece out of charity. You saw how their depth disintegrated during this run. Surely GM Chris Drury wouldn’t move Kakko for a second- or third-rounder or a prospect/suspect. That is not the mode this team should adopt. I expect Kakko to be available and I would expect him to become part of a larger deal if one manifests. Four years and five seasons after the pingpong ball popped, it’s time to move on. https://nypost.com/2024/06/04/sports/kaapo-kakkos-time-with-rangers-should-be-over-at-right-trade-price/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 I'm willing to bet he's on the roster in September. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 I mean no disrespect when I say this but I do wonder if his diabetes impacts his performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 46 minutes ago, Pete said: I'm willing to bet he's on the roster in September. Probably. The alternative is probably like a 2nd round pick, so...that's not going to be worth risking egg on your face later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 As discussed there’s no reason to trade him unless it’s part of a package. He’s priced right for his performance which is needed on any winning team. Sucks that he hasn’t lived up to draft position but he’s not trouba. He is playing about what he is paid to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 16 hours ago, Pete said: I'm willing to bet he's on the roster in September. I second this! Cheap RW...which we need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 38 minutes ago, Ozzy said: I second this! Cheap RW...which we need Even if you use him on a 3rd or 4th line basis it’s fine. Maybe a mid season or deadline trade if anything. the more I think about it the guy who has to go is trouba. Kreider still brings value. Zib and panarin aren’t going anywhere unless they WANT to go. Troubas contract is an albatross and I think he’s still a valued guy enough to make a hockey trade work here. possibly goodrow too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 3 minutes ago, siddious said: Even if you use him on a 3rd or 4th line basis it’s fine. Maybe a mid season or deadline trade if anything. the more I think about it the guy who has to go is trouba. Kreider still brings value. Zib and panarin aren’t going anywhere unless they WANT to go. Troubas contract is an albatross and I think he’s still a valued guy enough to make a hockey trade work here. possibly goodrow too. Kakko I still think is the least of our worries. Ok, He stinks...but he's cheap, he plays RW, and he can score a few points here and there....rarely, but it's possible. Mika plays like a pussy, and so does Panarin, but we know their shtick. Trouba is the problem...and not just his contract this time. He sucked in the playoffs, flat out! He was like fucking rotting dead possum carcas in a hot garage, stinky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Maybe you can trade him, Chytil, Trouba & the number 1 pick somewhere? Could sign Sprong as a cheap replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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